OXIUM -New Xils-lab synthesizer- [ Jp8 Comparison :) ]

[Howard]

interlectualism ... which is a joke to begin with

"Interlectualism" (sic) = belief in the power of mutual lecturing.

[Crackbaby]

inter[netinteel]lctualism ^^

They'll have to add a second meaning to all dictionaries now

The meaning you posted though is not a joke! It's the best way!

[Lotuzia]

Ltz, could you expand on the differences between MsqFix and MsqEnv as mod sources? When I've swapped them out for one another, I've been hard-pressed to hear a substantial difference...

Never mind, I figured it out - Fix ignores masque attack and release, Env respects them...

Sorry to be a slow learner!

Exactly

Another Oxium unique feature. The mask envelopes are perfect to add subtle and smooth modulations, but you can also use them to do some slides in sequences, some different sweep progressions or in alternate ways, some fade outs between masks, etc etc. Its really something to dig in regarding sound design, and there are for sure a lot of ways to use them.

Btw did someone notice that two Oxium envelopes had looping abilities ?

Else : Intro price : Only 5 days left

LtZ

[Crackbaby]

Yeah, i saw the loopin'! It's a bit too advanced for me to use yet, but i have hit the switch a couple of times

[hakey]

So actually its only the release parameter of the filter envelope under particular extreme settings ( self rez etc) that is your concern and the object of your audio clips, and not "the envelopes" themselves as a whole.

You might find that on the Attack stage, its the reverse, and that Oxium is more snappy, ot that Oxium has more definition and a better quantize, is more detailed, for the attacks stages with another test.

My *impression* is that, of the two, Oxium's attack sounds the softer in those clips, ymmv (perhaps Oxium's VCA envelope slightly lags behind the filter envelope - would explain why the filter opening is audible in the release but not the attack,).

And you're quite right, it was an extreme test, but for a couple of reasons. Firstly, routing the envelope to filter cut off at self resonance is the best way I know to make an envelope response audible. Secondly, one of the alleged advantages of the sacred 0-d-fb filter is its accurate response to fast modulations, so it seems reasonable to put Oxium's 0-d-fb filter to the test.

One last question - what's going on with this white noise that's added with increased resonance [try this: set all osc gains to zero, open filter cut off fully and then slowly increase resonance - the noise becomes apparent from 50% res onwards and is still audible if you mix in some oscillator signal]?

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[hakey]

...and some constructive suggestions - why not have a 'snappy' envelope setting (a button would it), have velocity to envelope amplitude hardwired with the depth controls in the envelope section, offer different modulation ranges (x1, x2, x4), and add sine waves and FM to the oscillators?

[Crackbaby]

...and some constructive suggestions - why not have a 'snappy' envelope setting (a button would it), have velocity to envelope amplitude hardwired with the depth controls in the envelope section, offer different modulation ranges (x1, x2, x4), and add sine waves and FM to the oscillators?

Thank you If you don't know why, that's ok. I just wanted to say it out loud.

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If you want to expand the synth further i think those are the steppes to take. Or anyone who can think of other cool stuff?

You can FM the osc's with each other now though in the mod section. It sounds freakishly* good! (*my spellchecker didn't react on that word )

[Nielzie]

All technical discussions aside, I wonder and sincerely hope that the sales for this (imho quite excellent) synth already have been (and further will be) a big succes.

Because hopefully that will lead us to even more full featured XILS-lab synths that have serial number protection only.

Has OXIUM been reviewed yet by any of the major magazines by the way?

[Howard]

One last question - what's going on with this white noise that's added with increased resonance [try this: set all osc gains to zero, open filter cut off fully and then slowly increase resonance - the noise becomes apparent from 50% res onwards and is still audible if you mix in some oscillator signal]?-

For "self-oscillation"? Perhaps a bit too much, it's clearly audible.

[Lotuzia]

...and some constructive suggestions - why not have a 'snappy' envelope setting (a button would it), have velocity to envelope amplitude hardwired with the depth controls in the envelope section, offer different modulation ranges (x1, x2, x4), and add sine waves and FM to the oscillators?

You can intermodulate oscillators in the Mod Matrix like CrackBaby pointed it out.

Yes, SineWave, everything could be added. But triangle is close to sine, it has also PWM, and you can have cumulative waveforsms for the oscillators in Oxium. All in all, not that bad

For the modulation range I honnestly think its useless. Almost all mod ranges have the range we think is usefull. As for adding hardwired controls, there are already many controls, and we want to keep the UI of the main panels as simple, clear and neat as possible. For those who want to perform more sophisticated tasks there's the combination of masks, mod matrix, arpeggiator, voice modes etc, and it can already make possible so many new things ....

If you use only the main panels Oxium can give you on a single overall panel :

The cumulative oscillators with hardwired PWM, two filters with hardwired mods, three DsyncAdsr enveloppes with looping features, three cumulative waveforms LFOs with sophisticated features, a doubler mixer, a complete glide module, and 4 effects, + all the special "analog" buttons, the voices modes, the unisson features, the stereo spread, and four effects with a lot of parameters, + the arpeggiator etc etc, and all that in a clear GUI with s.p.a.c.E. Here again we think its not too bad, its a very complete simple but yet powerfull VA synthesizer.

So you could add a lot of things in any synthesizer tbh, but our main concern until now what to make the existing features sound as excellent as possible, and then to also offer nerver seen features, like the unique masque modulator, the intelligent info feedback pane, the very efficient databased base preset system management etc etc.

Oxium has not the ambition to become "the best" or "the most complete" synthesizer, its just aims to be an innovative and expressive synthesizer with a stellar sound.

LtZ

[braj]

All technical discussions aside, I wonder and sincerely hope that the sales for this (imho quite excellent) synth already have been (and further will be) a big succes.

Because hopefully that will lead us to even more full featured XILS-lab synths that have serial number protection only.

+1

[Nielzie]

One last question - what's going on with this white noise that's added with increased resonance [try this: set all osc gains to zero, open filter cut off fully and then slowly increase resonance - the noise becomes apparent from 50% res onwards and is still audible if you mix in some oscillator signal]?-

For "self-oscillation"? Perhaps a bit too much, it's clearly audible.

Hi Howard, as an experienced/knowledgeable and well respected sound designer, what is your overall opinion on this synth if I may ask?

[Lotuzia]

One last question - what's going on with this white noise that's added with increased resonance [try this: set all osc gains to zero, open filter cut off fully and then slowly increase resonance - the noise becomes apparent from 50% res onwards and is still audible if you mix in some oscillator signal]?-

For "self-oscillation"? Perhaps a bit too much, it's clearly audible.

oh .... I suppose you're visiting us and posting such comments as a U-he company representative.

Should we take this as an honor ?

LtZ

[braj]

And now I remember why I avoided this thread...

[hakey]

nvm