A friend tried T3 on the MAc Air with OS 10.7.
Worked basicly but no LAME seem to work with it and is you change pitch and play the clip, it quits. Any body on 10.7?
T3 on OSX 10.7
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- KVRist
- 41 posts since 23 Dec, 2003
I have T3 running on OS X 10.8 here. It's clearly showing its age (literally) because it doesn't remember anything, no prefs/locations are saved between sessions and it loses the registration every time too. Other than that, well it opens and it works. Haven't tried doing much with it apart from opening and playing some really old projects. So it's still usable if that's all you need, but if T is your main DAW, probably stay away from Mountain Lion.
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- KVRAF
- 4054 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Hamilton, New Zealand
Man that sucks.
I make music: progressive-acoustic | electronica/game-soundtrack work | progressive alt-metal
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- KVRAF
- 1974 posts since 21 Jun, 2002 from Earth
Same boat. Tracktion won't store the registration key on Mountain Lion. I picked up a new retina mbp, and was kinda saddened in that I'd have to drop the key file on the icon every time in order to use it. 
<tangent>Tracktion scales up to 2880x1800 on the retina display fantastically, crisp fonts and all (unlike most apps). I guess that doesn't really mean much considering it's absolute state of abandonment.</tangent>
<tangent>Tracktion scales up to 2880x1800 on the retina display fantastically, crisp fonts and all (unlike most apps). I guess that doesn't really mean much considering it's absolute state of abandonment.</tangent>
ModuLR / Radio
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
10.8 changes the rules on where applications can store things. A lot of apps used to bung stuff in /Library/Application Support which now requires root (as it really should have all along Apple!).
A couple of ideas that spring to mind:
Try running T as admin when installing the auth key. Since the write should only need to happen once, this may be sufficient.
Alternatively, if anyone with 10.7 can find where T stores the registration data (is it in the main prefs?) A symlink from there into the normal user space settings area would (should) also work.
A couple of ideas that spring to mind:
Try running T as admin when installing the auth key. Since the write should only need to happen once, this may be sufficient.
Alternatively, if anyone with 10.7 can find where T stores the registration data (is it in the main prefs?) A symlink from there into the normal user space settings area would (should) also work.
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
OK here's the fix for people having registration issues with Lion/ML
The main settings file which contains registration details, as well as audio/midi conf and paths is located at /Library/Application Support/Tracktion 3/
As of 10.7 Apple have blocked any apps (even those launched by admin users) from writing to system paths without requesting privilege escalation. Since Tracktion is pretty old, it doesn't do this, so the OS simply blocks the write, and the settings file is never created.
To get around this, you need to pre-raise your user status before launching Tracktion.
In the following instructions omit any '' around commands. <text> Signifies a placeholder and should not be entered literally.
1) Open the terminal application[1]
2) If your current user is not an admin, you'll need to know an admin account name/password. If your current user is an admin, you can skip to step #3, and use the time saved to instead read up on why this is a bad idea!
At the common prompt enter: 'su <admin user name>' followed by enter.
(leave the angle brackets out, just enter the name, I.E.:
bash-3.2$ su admin
Once you hit enter you'll be asked for the admin account password. Enter the password, and follow with the enter key.
3) Type: 'cd /Applications' followed by enter.
4) Type: 'sudo Tracktion\ 3.app/Contents/MacOS/./Tracktion\ 3' followed by enter.
Once again you'll be prompted for the admin user password.
Now just run through the wizard and registration as normal, and the settings file will be saved out. Now close Tracktion, and open it as normal from Launchpad or the Finder, and make sure it's working.
Caveat:subsequent changes to the settings file will not be possible without again escalating access rights. It's probably possible to chmod/chown the settings directory and contents to be writable by your user account, but there's a good reason why Apple make it hard to change things in that area, so I'm not going to recommend doing this.
For the curious, step #4 is the one that matters. By issuing the 'sudo' command before starting the Tracktion executable, you are telling OSX to grant all privileges available to admin users to the Tracktion process.
[1] Terminal.app resides in /Applications/Utilities. It can usually be found in spotlight, or for ML users, by using the new search tool in Launchpad.
The main settings file which contains registration details, as well as audio/midi conf and paths is located at /Library/Application Support/Tracktion 3/
As of 10.7 Apple have blocked any apps (even those launched by admin users) from writing to system paths without requesting privilege escalation. Since Tracktion is pretty old, it doesn't do this, so the OS simply blocks the write, and the settings file is never created.
To get around this, you need to pre-raise your user status before launching Tracktion.
In the following instructions omit any '' around commands. <text> Signifies a placeholder and should not be entered literally.
1) Open the terminal application[1]
2) If your current user is not an admin, you'll need to know an admin account name/password. If your current user is an admin, you can skip to step #3, and use the time saved to instead read up on why this is a bad idea!
At the common prompt enter: 'su <admin user name>' followed by enter.
(leave the angle brackets out, just enter the name, I.E.:
bash-3.2$ su admin
Once you hit enter you'll be asked for the admin account password. Enter the password, and follow with the enter key.
3) Type: 'cd /Applications' followed by enter.
4) Type: 'sudo Tracktion\ 3.app/Contents/MacOS/./Tracktion\ 3' followed by enter.
Once again you'll be prompted for the admin user password.
Now just run through the wizard and registration as normal, and the settings file will be saved out. Now close Tracktion, and open it as normal from Launchpad or the Finder, and make sure it's working.
Caveat:subsequent changes to the settings file will not be possible without again escalating access rights. It's probably possible to chmod/chown the settings directory and contents to be writable by your user account, but there's a good reason why Apple make it hard to change things in that area, so I'm not going to recommend doing this.
For the curious, step #4 is the one that matters. By issuing the 'sudo' command before starting the Tracktion executable, you are telling OSX to grant all privileges available to admin users to the Tracktion process.
[1] Terminal.app resides in /Applications/Utilities. It can usually be found in spotlight, or for ML users, by using the new search tool in Launchpad.
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- KVRAF
- 1706 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from Indianapolis
Wow. Mod and valley posting in the same thread. Haven't seen that for awhile!
Had to check the thread date to make sure it wasn't from 2007.
All we need now, are Lunch Money and the "Consolation Project" guy (Ron?) to chime in to complete the timewarp!
Oh, and this:
Great to see you guys are still around, trying to force T3 to continue working in environments it was never designed for!
Had to check the thread date to make sure it wasn't from 2007.
All we need now, are Lunch Money and the "Consolation Project" guy (Ron?) to chime in to complete the timewarp!
Oh, and this:
Great to see you guys are still around, trying to force T3 to continue working in environments it was never designed for!
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
Happier days.
Tracktion got me back into writing music after quite a long slump. I've been looking around for alternatives and I can't find anything that suits me as well. I doubt I will.
It was an awesome ride while it lasted though. From time to time I still get Rock's Rack Filter song in my head to this day[1].
I wonder if Philip still has that Tracktion crop circle logo up on his site somewhere...
[1] I should have kept the mp3.
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- KVRAF
- 1706 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from Indianapolis
You mean this: http://www.rawmaterialsoftware.com/pain ... er_big.jpgvalley wrote: I wonder if Philip still has that Tracktion crop circle logo up on his site somewhere...
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
bk wrote:You mean this: http://www.rawmaterialsoftware.com/pain ... er_big.jpgvalley wrote: I wonder if Philip still has that Tracktion crop circle logo up on his site somewhere...
That'd be the one.
I know ttoz was pretty pleased with himself for his Greg Mackie sock puppetry, but for trolling the T forum, Philip owned!
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
Damn, I just noticed the date on the Leader. 2003? I'm getting old.
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- KVRAF
- 37397 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Those were the daysbk wrote:I kinda wish you hadn't noticed that date.valley wrote:Damn, I just noticed the date on the Leader. 2003? I'm getting old.
Was it really that long ago? Sheesh!
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- KVRist
- 54 posts since 30 Jun, 2004 from Seattle Area
This worked to get in once, but won't allow you to make any settings changes that stick (as long as they're written into /Library/Application Support). Here's a more permanent workaround:valley wrote:OK here's the fix for people having registration issues with Lion/ML
The main settings file which contains registration details, as well as audio/midi conf and paths is located at /Library/Application Support/Tracktion 3/
As of 10.7 Apple have blocked any apps (even those launched by admin users) from writing to system paths without requesting privilege escalation. Since Tracktion is pretty old, it doesn't do this, so the OS simply blocks the write, and the settings file is never created.
To get around this, you need to pre-raise your user status before launching Tracktion.
In the following instructions omit any '' around commands. <text> Signifies a placeholder and should not be entered literally.
1) Open the terminal application[1]
2) If your current user is not an admin, you'll need to know an admin account name/password. If your current user is an admin, you can skip to step #3, and use the time saved to instead read up on why this is a bad idea!
At the common prompt enter: 'su <admin user name>' followed by enter.
(leave the angle brackets out, just enter the name, I.E.:
bash-3.2$ su admin
Once you hit enter you'll be asked for the admin account password. Enter the password, and follow with the enter key.
3) Type: 'cd /Applications' followed by enter.
4) Type: 'sudo Tracktion\ 3.app/Contents/MacOS/./Tracktion\ 3' followed by enter.
Once again you'll be prompted for the admin user password.
Now just run through the wizard and registration as normal, and the settings file will be saved out. Now close Tracktion, and open it as normal from Launchpad or the Finder, and make sure it's working.
Caveat:subsequent changes to the settings file will not be possible without again escalating access rights. It's probably possible to chmod/chown the settings directory and contents to be writable by your user account, but there's a good reason why Apple make it hard to change things in that area, so I'm not going to recommend doing this.
For the curious, step #4 is the one that matters. By issuing the 'sudo' command before starting the Tracktion executable, you are telling OSX to grant all privileges available to admin users to the Tracktion process.
[1] Terminal.app resides in /Applications/Utilities. It can usually be found in spotlight, or for ML users, by using the new search tool in Launchpad.
1. Launch terminal.
2. sudo mv /Library/Application\ Support/Tracktion\ 3 ~/Application\ Support
-- if #2 fails either you don't yet have a Tracktion 3 sub-dir in /Library/Application Support, or you already have one in your user sub-folder. If the former, don't worry about it. If the latter then do 2b:
2b. sudo mv /Library/Application\ Support/Tracktion\ 3/* ~/Application\ Support/Tracktion\ 3
3. sudo ln -s ~/Application\ Support/Tracktion\ 3 /Library/Application\ Support/Tracktion\ 3
4. sudo chmod 777 /Library/Application\ Support/Tracktion\ 3
5. sudo chown -R 'whoami':staff ~/Library/Application\ Support/Tracktion\ 3
What this does is move the folder into the Application Support sub-folder in your user folder, then create a link in the root Application Support folder that points to it (so the app won't know the difference). Then we modify the owner and permissions such that the app can get write access as you, instead of needing special root/admin permissions.
Note that if you Repair Permissions on your drive, then you may need to repeat step #4 in order to get write access through the link again. (Otherwise your preferences won't be able to be saved.)
The steps above should also make it so that Tracktion can once again keep track of your opened/library projects.
Hope this helps!!
ps. If Mackie wanted to bother fixing this, it's probably super easy. I'm surprised they have paid so little attention to Tracktion, but I guess they just never got the lift they wanted after the acquisition.
Best,
-Jake
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- KVRian
- 1272 posts since 11 Apr, 2002 from Nashville, TN
Thanks for making my day valley.valley wrote:
Rock's Rack Filter song in my head to this day[1].
I wonder if Philip still has that Tracktion crop circle logo up on his site somewhere...
[1] I should have kept the mp3.
http://www.rockkennedy.com/media/audio/And_You_Too.mp3