(the product formerly known as) Epoch
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- KVRist
- 88 posts since 9 Dec, 2012
Hello,
Collin wrote:
Always pleased to get more questions
koalaboy wrote:
Anyway, I think you've already answered as much as I can ask until I actually see how Epoch all hangs together and what it can/can't do.
There are tons of questions from my side also, but its more of the limited informations you gave to us till now, as koalaboy says with more information there will be also more questions.
Examples:
like to have Shift Registers lenght in 4, 8, 16 and 32 steps?
what about a MatrixSwitch with 8x8 and 16 x 16 routing
what about a SwitchSequencer that has an in and out per step that is switched when the step is reached
do they exept any value to get shifted?
If I am on a Mac DAW with AUs can I also load VSTs in this AU?
could AUs and VSTs used together?
Do we have Presets for each module?
are the single steps of a sequencer to be modulated by something like another sequencer, LFO and so on?
is it possible to have several sequencers with their AUs or VSTs in parallel?
is there a CV to AudioModule?
is there a Gatesequencer with outs per step?
and so on.
... checks wallet. OK!
... checks bankacount. OK!
... checks Credit Card. OK!
... ready for input
best
jue
Collin wrote:
Always pleased to get more questions
koalaboy wrote:
Anyway, I think you've already answered as much as I can ask until I actually see how Epoch all hangs together and what it can/can't do.
There are tons of questions from my side also, but its more of the limited informations you gave to us till now, as koalaboy says with more information there will be also more questions.
Examples:
like to have Shift Registers lenght in 4, 8, 16 and 32 steps?
what about a MatrixSwitch with 8x8 and 16 x 16 routing
what about a SwitchSequencer that has an in and out per step that is switched when the step is reached
do they exept any value to get shifted?
If I am on a Mac DAW with AUs can I also load VSTs in this AU?
could AUs and VSTs used together?
Do we have Presets for each module?
are the single steps of a sequencer to be modulated by something like another sequencer, LFO and so on?
is it possible to have several sequencers with their AUs or VSTs in parallel?
is there a CV to AudioModule?
is there a Gatesequencer with outs per step?
and so on.
... checks wallet. OK!
... checks bankacount. OK!
... checks Credit Card. OK!
... ready for input
best
jue
Located in the European Outback
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- KVRAF
- 2699 posts since 25 Aug, 2003 from Bournemouth, UK
The built-in Shift Register only has memory for 1 item, but you can chain them together to make a longer buffer. You can this wrap this in a macro to make your own larger shift register (although I expect I'll probably include bigger shift register macros in the default user library anyway.)like to have Shift Registers lenght in 4, 8, 16 and 32 steps?
Alternatively, you could write a Lua shift register; it would only be a few lines of code, I imagine.
You could probably build this with switches, but I imagine the wiring involved would be unwieldy. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I'd say this would be easily done with a Lua module (and again, probably something I'll include in the user library. Sounds useful!)what about a MatrixSwitch with 8x8 and 16 x 16 routing
Yes, you could do this with a counter, a compare, and a switch.what about a SwitchSequencer that has an in and out per step that is switched when the step is reached
Anything can be wired into the shift register, yes.do they exept any value to get shifted?
Yes, there is no problem with loading a mix and match of AUs and VSTs. You can host VSTs in the AU version, and vice versa.If I am on a Mac DAW with AUs can I also load VSTs in this AU?
could AUs and VSTs used together?
Some of them do, mainly the sequencers, macros, and Lua script modules. The sequencers also have various generative functions for randomly populating them. I anticipate extending this to user created generative functions in a future version.Do we have Presets for each module?
You can't (yet) modulate the actual values in the sequencer directly, but you can modulate the output values, which more-or-less amounts to the same thing (and in many ways, is more flexible.)are the single steps of a sequencer to be modulated by something like another sequencer, LFO and so on?
Yes and yes.is it possible to have several sequencers with their AUs or VSTs in parallel. is there a CV to AudioModule?
Both the note sequencer and Drum sequencer have gates per step. They also have gate inputs, so you can modulate the gate with another source. Or you can extract the notes as they output from the sequencer, and change the gatelengths. Or skip the sequencer altogether and use a discrete CV to Note module. Or ... and ... or ... plenty of options here!is there a Gatesequencer with outs per step?
Great questions, and it's reassuring to hear that this is requests that I've already got covered.
Architect, the modular MIDI toolkit, beta now available for macOS, Windows, and Linux.
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- KVRAF
- 2194 posts since 18 Mar, 2006 from Plymouth, UK
How about hosting AUs in the VST version.... on Windows
(Actually, I'm suprised this hasn't happened yet considering it's all x86 these days)
Having crammed on LUA at the weekend (easily manageable even for an old Java hack like myself) I can see the huge potential. Of course, I may never actually make music, but simply play with routing data
(Actually, I'm suprised this hasn't happened yet considering it's all x86 these days)
Having crammed on LUA at the weekend (easily manageable even for an old Java hack like myself) I can see the huge potential. Of course, I may never actually make music, but simply play with routing data
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- KVRist
- 88 posts since 9 Dec, 2012
Hello,
is it possible to select the next step within a sequencer to play by a sequencer that sends the stepnumbers?
Example
ABCD CBAD
1234 3214 <-- stepnumbers
This would be nice to use the sequencers as eventtables or are there some?
Whats the maximun stepcount by a sequencer 16 /32/64/128/256
Think the solution with the LUA module is not for everyone, please have in mind that it should be a tool for musicians and composers that are no programers.
BTW: really quiet her only few members?
please give us a little more informations...
best
jue
is it possible to select the next step within a sequencer to play by a sequencer that sends the stepnumbers?
Example
ABCD CBAD
1234 3214 <-- stepnumbers
This would be nice to use the sequencers as eventtables or are there some?
Whats the maximun stepcount by a sequencer 16 /32/64/128/256
Think the solution with the LUA module is not for everyone, please have in mind that it should be a tool for musicians and composers that are no programers.
BTW: really quiet her only few members?
please give us a little more informations...
best
jue
Located in the European Outback
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- KVRAF
- 2699 posts since 25 Aug, 2003 from Bournemouth, UK
Yes: all sequencers have a step index input which specifies the step to play. It's easy to use this to write your own play position logic. (They also have a step index output, with which you can chain sequencers together so they both play the same steps at the same time.)jue wrote:is it possible to select the next step within a sequencer to play by a sequencer that sends the stepnumbers?
For v1.0, the CV sequencers will suffice. I do have some plans for proper event tables modules at some future point. You could also build your own, in the interim; perhaps with rotary controls or constants, and a big n:1 switch?This would be nice to use the sequencers as eventtables or are there some?
At the moment, you can set a sequencer step count of 8, 16, 32, 64, or 128. I'll probably increase this before beta to 512, or even 1024, depending on the memory requirements. If this still isn't enough steps, you can also chain sequence patterns together. Its probably worth mentioning here that you can zoom in and out of the sequencer display, so you'll have no trouble editing those hundred-odd steps.Whats the maximun stepcount by a sequencer 16 /32/64/128/256
Sure, I expect that a number of people will use Lua modules without even caring they are editable Lua modules. For all intents and purposes, they work just like the standard built-ins. But with Lua, a little knowledge goes a long way, and writing simple modules is within the realm of anyone. Most are only a few lines of code, after all.Think the solution with the LUA module is not for everyone, please have in mind that it should be a tool for musicians and composers that are no programers.
Generally though, I'm relying on Lua to provide modules which I don't want to be part of the core library. Things too obscure or specialised. Things that'd only serve as clutter if they were listed amongst the built-ins. A module which produces MIDI notes based on Conway's Life may be awesome, but probably not the sort of thing I see as a core component. As a script in the Lua library though? Sure!
(I do also anticipate that any Lua modules which prove widely useful can easily be re-coded and included as C++ built-in for a future revision.)
Architect, the modular MIDI toolkit, beta now available for macOS, Windows, and Linux.
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- KVRAF
- 2699 posts since 25 Aug, 2003 from Bournemouth, UK
Quiet is good: it means I'm working hard!
I've been busy refactoring a lot of Epoch's modular code, removing as many limitations as possible. Prior, there were limits to the numbers of modules you could create, limits to the number of connections to a single port, limits to the size of data flowing down a cable. Well, no-one likes limits, so I'm pleased to report most of these are now gone* - and within a few days, all limits will be lifted.
Time well spent: it's the much better product after all this, let me assure you!
* Full disclosure: you are still limited to 4 billion modules.
I've been busy refactoring a lot of Epoch's modular code, removing as many limitations as possible. Prior, there were limits to the numbers of modules you could create, limits to the number of connections to a single port, limits to the size of data flowing down a cable. Well, no-one likes limits, so I'm pleased to report most of these are now gone* - and within a few days, all limits will be lifted.
Time well spent: it's the much better product after all this, let me assure you!
* Full disclosure: you are still limited to 4 billion modules.
Architect, the modular MIDI toolkit, beta now available for macOS, Windows, and Linux.
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- KVRian
- 900 posts since 19 Aug, 2009
This means it is close to release? Price?colin@loomer wrote:Quiet is good: it means I'm working hard!
I've been busy refactoring a lot of Epoch's modular code, removing as many limitations as possible. Prior, there were limits to the numbers of modules you could create, limits to the number of connections to a single port, limits to the size of data flowing down a cable. Well, no-one likes limits, so I'm pleased to report most of these are now gone* - and within a few days, all limits will be lifted.
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- KVRAF
- 2699 posts since 25 Aug, 2003 from Bournemouth, UK
Closer, but still not close enough that I'd be confident in giving a date. Pricing is still undecided, but think around the same bracket as say Numerology, or Thesys. The beta will also have a decent 'early adopters' discount too, which I anticipate remaining in play until the official 1.0 release.
Architect, the modular MIDI toolkit, beta now available for macOS, Windows, and Linux.
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- KVRAF
- 2897 posts since 3 Mar, 2006
as someone who uses a eurorack modular and has been jealous of OSX users for the whole numerology thing - I think I love you.
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- KVRAF
- 2699 posts since 25 Aug, 2003 from Bournemouth, UK
Thanks; appreciate the vote of confidence!
Architect, the modular MIDI toolkit, beta now available for macOS, Windows, and Linux.
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- KVRAF
- 2357 posts since 24 Nov, 2012
I recently tried to resurrect my daughters old macbook pro just so I could get Numerology A few keys don't work (coffee spill) - including the important enter key - and it costs a fortune to get fixed. I could have run it with an external mouse and keyboard, but about that time I heard about Loomer and Epoch, which I think will suit me better anyway as I like the flexibility of the scripting add-on. So her old machine sits in that old-tech zone where it isn't actually useful but I can't bring myself to throw it away.MitchK1989 wrote:as someone who uses a eurorack modular and has been jealous of OSX users for the whole numerology thing - I think I love you.
what you don't know only makes you stronger
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
+ 10000000000000!MitchK1989 wrote:as someone who uses a eurorack modular and has been jealous of OSX users for the whole numerology thing - I think I love you.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
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- KVRist
- 37 posts since 28 Nov, 2008
Discounts? Pffft, I'd actually pay any extra fees for the beta access!