Commercial soundsets...always Massive and Sylenth...
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- KVRAF
- 7866 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Sound designers would sell more and we would get a more accurate view of the market if they all went to selling sounds ala carte, as with an iTune/Amazon way of selling - individual patches. Then we wouldn't have to fill up a bank with 96 underwhelming EDM patches to get the three or four they did well.
- KVRAF
- 1707 posts since 1 Mar, 2010 from Paris
I don't think it's ever going to happen. Some artists refuse sell separate tracks because they think the album should be listened to as a whole.BBFG# wrote:Sound designers would sell more and we would get a more accurate view of the market if they all went to selling sounds ala carte, as with an iTune/Amazon way of selling - individual patches. Then we wouldn't have to fill up a bank with 96 underwhelming EDM patches to get the three or four they did well.
In a similar manner, I'm sure the most popular soundbanks contain no fillers.
I can only speak from my experience but I can garantee there are no fillers in mine. If I don't really like a preset I've made, it gets ditched before making it into the bank. And that's partly why I don't release more of them.
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- KVRAF
- 7866 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
As I said, I usually get four out of a hundred of usable patches. Mainly because they are filled with EDM patches. It's like when Coke sells Dr. Pepper to the stores, but tells them for every case of DP to buy, you are required to buy four cases of Coke so we can truthfully tell the world Coke is our number one seller (to the retailer). So the argument being made here is that EDM sells more, but the truth is, many of us are stuck buying the crap patches (although I do understand that is what some people want) just to get the handful of decent and good patches in it. And most artists sell through iTunes & Amazon individual songs. Beyonce just tried selling all or nothing and it may or may not work for her. Most sound designers don't have the same pull as Beyonce though. (Unless you can get Jordan or Hans to endorse it).Karten wrote:I don't think it's ever going to happen. Some artists refuse sell separate tracks because they think the album should be listened to as a whole.BBFG# wrote:Sound designers would sell more and we would get a more accurate view of the market if they all went to selling sounds ala carte, as with an iTune/Amazon way of selling - individual patches. Then we wouldn't have to fill up a bank with 96 underwhelming EDM patches to get the three or four they did well.
In a similar manner, I'm sure the most popular soundbanks contain no fillers.
I can only speak from my experience but I can garantee there are no fillers in mine. If I don't really like a preset I've made, it gets ditched before making it into the bank. And that's partly why I don't release more of them.
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- KVRAF
- 7860 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
It would be interesting to hear what Nori Ubukata would program for Sylenth1. A whole bank of prog-rock influenced sounds would be nice for a change.
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- KVRAF
- 4327 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
- KVRAF
- 1748 posts since 26 Feb, 2013 from Sweden
I am planning a release of Leap Into The Void Massive unlimited as separate downloads apart from the subscription which includes the complete collection and future "Clusters" (as I call them). Every cluster contains roughly 10-20 presets and have a specific focus, technique or style etc. As the Massive unlimited collection grows this more and more became an obvious alternative that will be launched eventually.BBFG# wrote:Sound designers would sell more and we would get a more accurate view of the market if they all went to selling sounds ala carte, as with an iTune/Amazon way of selling - individual patches. Then we wouldn't have to fill up a bank with 96 underwhelming EDM patches to get the three or four they did well.
Wether it's a good solution or bad, time will tell. For this specific collection though, it is sort of already pre-made and I can only see a good thing coming out of it.
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- KVRAF
- 7866 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Why not sell individual patches with minor break points at certain quantities?
Then a designer would accurately know the sounds that sell and the ones that don't.
Then a designer would accurately know the sounds that sell and the ones that don't.
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- KVRAF
- 12583 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
It's all with the assumption lower prices + increased sales = better profits, which is definitely not something to be confident about.
The only thing you can be relatively confident is increased customer satisfaction, which may lead to sales and may not.
The only thing you can be relatively confident is increased customer satisfaction, which may lead to sales and may not.
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- KVRAF
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
liv wrote:I am planning a release of Leap Into The Void Massive unlimited as separate downloads apart from the subscription which includes the complete collection and future "Clusters" (as I call them). Every cluster contains roughly 10-20 presets and have a specific focus, technique or style etc. As the Massive unlimited collection grows this more and more became an obvious alternative that will be launched eventually.BBFG# wrote:Sound designers would sell more and we would get a more accurate view of the market if they all went to selling sounds ala carte, as with an iTune/Amazon way of selling - individual patches. Then we wouldn't have to fill up a bank with 96 underwhelming EDM patches to get the three or four they did well.
Wether it's a good solution or bad, time will tell. For this specific collection though, it is sort of already pre-made and I can only see a good thing coming out of it.
I wish you all the best with this approach. I've tried it several times, like for example with our Korg Monopoly Grand Bundle ( 400 presets ), that I have splitted in 5 themathic banks.
Less than 6% of our customers choose to purchase one or several thematic banks. Otoh hundreds of people did get the Monopoly Grand Bundle. This invalidates the choice, at least for me, for even smaller soundsets, not counting the fact that with paypal or similar systems minimal fees per sale, it's not worth the trouble for micro commands ( You could even loose money when selling something at the extreme )
Thats the point with our users : Usually they want ALL our patches for a certain synth Thanks to them
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- KVRAF
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
aciddose wrote:It's all with the assumption lower prices + increased sales = better profits, which is definitely not something to be confident about.
The only thing you can be relatively confident is increased customer satisfaction, which may lead to sales and may not.
Exactly this : There's no mass market for VSTI themselves. And therefore even less with soundsets for VSTI. Only solution is the satisfaction of your users.
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- KVRAF
- 1748 posts since 26 Feb, 2013 from Sweden
Thanks for the heads up and for sharing your experience.Lotuzia wrote:liv wrote:I am planning a release of Leap Into The Void Massive unlimited as separate downloads apart from the subscription which includes the complete collection and future "Clusters" (as I call them). Every cluster contains roughly 10-20 presets and have a specific focus, technique or style etc. As the Massive unlimited collection grows this more and more became an obvious alternative that will be launched eventually.BBFG# wrote:Sound designers would sell more and we would get a more accurate view of the market if they all went to selling sounds ala carte, as with an iTune/Amazon way of selling - individual patches. Then we wouldn't have to fill up a bank with 96 underwhelming EDM patches to get the three or four they did well.
Wether it's a good solution or bad, time will tell. For this specific collection though, it is sort of already pre-made and I can only see a good thing coming out of it.
I wish you all the best with this approach. I've tried it several times, like for example with our Korg Monopoly Grand Bundle ( 400 presets ), that I have splitted in 5 themathic banks.
Less than 6% of our customers choose to purchase one or several thematic banks. Otoh hundreds of people did get the Monopoly Grand Bundle. This invalidates the choice, at least for me, for even smaller soundsets, not counting the fact that with paypal or similar systems minimal fees per sale, it's not worth the trouble for micro commands ( You could even loose money when selling something at the extreme )
Thats the point with our users : Usually they want ALL our patches for a certain synth Thanks to them