KVR Audio

braj · Post by **braj** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:39 pm

BTW: mental masturbation: talking pretentiously to entertain and impress yourself and others with very little or no real substance.

braj · Post by **braj** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:50 pm

I want this, control to me is the biggest difference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7A0eLL5jt0

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:58 pm

Lovely controller, but if then, the Diva should be in that box, not in my computer.

Locus M · Post by **Locus M** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:10 pm

braj wrote:
Locus M wrote:
braj wrote:
Locus M wrote:
trimph1 wrote:Someone mentioned a masturbation filter...
Yup. Wasn't that you braj?
I do not believe I'm that clever, no.

(It was Hank the Knife)
Oh. Sorry then. In either case, let's keep it out of it and save it for some dedicated sites.
OK Mr Policeman, whatever you say.

Oh no, I was referring to myself as well

braj · Post by **braj** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:15 pm

chk071 wrote:Lovely controller, but if then, the Diva should be in that box, not in my computer.

That would be ideal, but then, what would we have to complain about?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:21 pm

Well, i wouldn't buy a 1000 € plus controller. Or pay 1000 € plus for the parts, and build it myself. Not unless there is a sound engine built into it. Just my opinion.

Just saw it on his website. 1370 € for the parts.

And 3 months of construction. You really gotta love what you're doing.

braj · Post by **braj** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:35 pm

I'm waiting for replicators. Computer: one Sh101, grey.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:38 pm

braj wrote:I want this, control to me is the biggest difference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7A0eLL5jt0

See, I admit it. This is the one thing I miss using VSTs. There is nothing like the feeling of sitting behind a monster like that and turning all those dials, moving all those sliders and flipping all those switches.

But that beast would take up my whole music area. I literally have no room for it.

So it's a trade-off. And because musically there isn't a lot of difference to my ears, it's a trade-off I'm willing to make.

But don't get me wrong. I'd love to be able to play with a synth like that for just an hour.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:58 pm

Synthetic Wav wrote:
analoguesamples909 wrote:
Z1202 wrote: Aside from the recongnizable signature bread-and-butter sounds, can anyone explain the musical importance of being an exact emulation?
the musical importance is that many people find analogue synthesis and processing more musical.

it come down to only one thing, digital artifacts..once we can use crazy sampling rate digital will smoke everything analog from my little understanding, aliasing and tricks to reduce aliasing is what make the difference in sound it seems or at least a big part of it.

(URG! F'n Topic Review! Can this be turned off? I find this post just sitting on my desktop of a computer I don't use every time. It's unbelievably frustrating)

Maybe, but think about this. Someone here.. maybe Gearslutz, once said,(I paraphrase) "when you're designing hardware you have to do some hacky things which end up becoming a big part of the character of that instrument." Now, I don't think this means that emulation is the only road to character, but it's an interesting thing to think about. So...

I know the Solaris runs at 32 bit/96khz resolution internally. I guess there is no reason this could not happen on a computer.

braj · Post by **braj** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:08 pm

(don't know what happened here!)

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:55 pm

It requires less effort than to simply "claim" I'm wrong to prove it.

So why has it not been proven?

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:40 am

braj wrote:I want this, control to me is the biggest difference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7A0eLL5jt0

Oh wow! this is more beautiful than Beyoncé's Diva! Lovely controller

chk071 wrote:Well, i wouldn't buy a 1000 € plus controller. Or pay 1000 € plus for the parts, and build it myself. Not unless there is a sound engine built into it. Just my opinion.

Just saw it on his website. 1370 € for the parts. And 3 months of construction. You really gotta love what you're doing.

I find it not expensive really! It has very good quality components (like the Fatar keys), many knobs. It is better IMO from Akai's controllers.
It also can be used with other soft synths! This is really great value for the money I think, but it need to be seen and touched first before ordering

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:46 am

aciddose wrote:It requires less effort than to simply "claim" I'm wrong to prove it.
So why has it not been proven?

Because you're the one producing the claims.

Carl Sagan wrote:Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

(See? Other people can post pictures too!)

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:02 am

bmrzycki wrote:
aciddose wrote:It requires less effort than to simply "claim" I'm wrong to prove it.
So why has it not been proven?
Because you're the one producing the claims.

I made no claim.

I provided a test you could use to determine whether or not a plugin produces the same result an electronic circuit produces.

Go forth and experiment, my children! Fly monkeys fly! Bwahaha!

I've applied this test myself and it was as I described. I claim nothing, the evidence I gathered was that the plugin produces as I described "awkward silence".

I can say nothing for what your experiment will demonstrate. Go on, conduct the experiment and report back with your results.

Locus M · Post by **Locus M** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:55 am

aciddose wrote:I made no claim.

So besides from accepting the fact that tests with two options always end up in equal distributions, that the difference between analog circuits and Diva is so significant for the sound that you cannot hear it and that those you call stupid resort to insults, we now have to disprove claims you never made?

Are you doing this on purpose to confuse people?

Diva vs Analogue - a real world test