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T3.0.3.3 - Random Poof Crashes
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Beno
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:04 pm reply with quote
If you are still experiencing random poof crashes where the application disappears with T3.0.3.3, please post to this thread with a brief description and send me a PM with your email address. I will send you a special crash reporter that we have created to help get to the bottom of these few remaining poof crashes. We really want to solve these.
Thanks for your help.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:49 pm reply with quote
Beno, I realize it's not a crash problem, but can you please comment on the "MIDI not recording" problem? It doesn't seem to have been addressed in the patch as I'm still having the problems.

There have been a lot of posts about this on both forums, and I've collected as much information about it as I can. The symptoms seem to be the same for everyone that's given enough info about it.

- Tracktion 3 will receive MIDI data. It will route the data through the VST instrument, and back out to the audio device. You can play the VST instrument live all day long with no problem, but when you go to record the track, it just doesn't record.
- You can reset the ASIO device from the Settings tab, and this will temporarily fix the problem, but after a few takes, or changing tracks, the problem re-occurs.
- Speaking only for myself here, Tracktion 2, Reaper, Energy-XT, Reason, and Cubase all work without issue (I downloaded as many demos and shareware hosts as I could find). I can't recreate the problem on any other host. The problem is specific to Tracktion 3. Other users have reported similar experiences, but with various hosts.
- People that have reported the problem are using Firewire, USB, and PCI devices. We originally thought it was a firewire problem, but there have been reports of the problem over the last couple of weeks from PCI and USB users.

There's a video of the problem here created by another user: http://screencast.com/t/BUvBPCDaMxk

This is definitely a show-stopper for me, and several others. Any help you can give us with this problem would be greatly appreciated.

My system specs are:

AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+, 2GB RAM, 160GB SATA HD, Focusrite Saffire

Edit: Running XP SP2 also
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:49 pm reply with quote
Crashes happen after hitting the spacebar, but also so abruptly that it is hard to remember just what happened.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:41 am reply with quote
Poof crash to desktop without lockup using IK Sonic Synth 2 Free. Double click on first preset in left box to load - plays fine. Click on Combi down arrow to select combi - still ok. Double click on first combi called "After The Glow". Get message that Instrument #1 can not be found and then poof. This is reproducible every time.

Intel P4, 1.7GHz, 1.5Gb memory, 120HDD, Win XP w/SP2.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:50 pm reply with quote
Experienced my first *poof* to the desktop crash. Circumstance: using Amplitube 2.1.2, making changes in the rack section. Haven't been able to reproduce it.

AMD X2 4400+, 3GB ram, Win XP w/SP2
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:49 am reply with quote
Integratron wrote:
Poof crash to desktop without lockup using IK Sonic Synth 2 Free. Double click on first preset in left box to load - plays fine. Click on Combi down arrow to select combi - still ok. Double click on first combi called "After The Glow". Get message that Instrument #1 can not be found and then poof. This is reproducible every time.

Intel P4, 1.7GHz, 1.5Gb memory, 120HDD, Win XP w/SP2.


confirmed!!

good work Smile


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:15 am reply with quote
hey beno,
i still get a crash to desktop when i change sample rate on the setting page.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:32 am reply with quote
esesar wrote:
hey beno,
i still get a crash to desktop when i change sample rate on the setting page.


what sound card & are they the latest drivers?

i don't have this problem with my eme or rme,

so i guess it must be linked to your cards asio driver & T3,

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:03 pm reply with quote
firebox/ latest drivers. worked fine with t1 and t2. dunno what happened w/t3. the latency settings don't match on t3 either. (t3 says 10.2ms vs the firebox reporting 10ms - but t2 reported 10ms)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:23 pm reply with quote
Damn, First poof crash to desktop for Johnny..... messing around with a sample bassed drum instrument.. Transport on play. two instaces of Tera 3, muted, 7 elestik vsts 4 of them muted.... 2 camel spaces open, gating cymbals... just about to input some Ride cymbals. T went poof.... Kool keys is right, it has something to do with sample bassed instruments.. I think
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:23 am reply with quote
what sample based drum instrument was it J2J?

Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:41 am reply with quote
this is slightly embarrasing but... I have a drum problem. So I went ahead and I bought some drums form Ueberschall... most specifically, Trance ID... ok, really bad I know... I am not using any of the synth loops, or pre constructed bass lines... but I desparately needed, good kicks, and snr's, and hi htz... I mean I had such trouble finding descent crash cymbals to gate... and perfect rides... and ueberschall is making a great product. It runs in its only vst called Elastik. I dunno if you have seen this but its wicked cool. the drums get played in a wild algorythm so they are always sounding fantastic.... Really if I was in a tuned room, I would try and synthesize my own drums. but I am realize it is very difficult to make your own drums, unless you are in a great mixing enviorment... and you need really good stuff to start out with.... so thats it, the cat is out of the bag I reckon. I was using euberschalls elastik..... Really. I just can't deny, that the drums on this are amazing.... The kiks, are so powerful. and thumpy. and I love the crashes. and the closed hi hatz are so sharp. the claps are ok. I wish they were more snary ( is snary a word ? ) I dunno.... anyways I am mixing and matching them, so I always have like 7 or 8 in a track. and 1 is playing a kick, one a snr, one a ht, etc..... so bassically I had the transport running. and I clicked an elastick cause I was gonna drop my ride cymbals in with the rythm. and POOF to desktop....
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:11 am reply with quote
and the Elastik player is VST 2.4 Malek, down at the euberschall forum posted a response to my quesiton. Kool keys was saying that he though T had a problem with Sampled bassed instruments, or maybe Vst 2.4 or both....
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:17 am reply with quote
thanks for the info Smile

i don't have that plugin so i cant test but hopefully others can Smile

& there's defiantly no shame in re-constructing loops! (IMO)

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:35 am reply with quote
djsubject wrote:
thanks for the info Smile

i don't have that plugin so i cant test but hopefully others can Smile

& there's defiantly no shame in re-constructing loops! (IMO)

Subz


I swear I am just using the single shot drum sounds... Crying or Very sad


I know. there is no shame in re-constructing loops. but honestly the drums r f8ck8n amazing... in this thing...
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