very please.. how i build lfo pitch bend tool in reaktor?
- KVRian
- 535 posts since 25 Nov, 2010
to pitchbend by first 1/4 of a lfo triangle or only by a third 1/4 of a lfo triangle when i want by a number of semitones i want but slide betwen when i selecting modulation with first 1/4 of a lfo triangle or only by a third 1/4 of a lfo triangle must be automatable like a everything else..
very, very please..
very, very please..
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
i bet if you can describe that in a way that doesn't confuse the hell out of me, you'll probably have figured out how to implement it.
i know english isn't your native language - you need to be much more clear what you want to do.
from what you said, nothing makes sense.
you want to pitch bend 1/4 of a triangle? it doesn't make sense at all.
do you mean for the first 1/4 of the cycle you want to pitch bend?
do you mean you want to pitch bend a triangle by 1/4 of a semitone?
i don't understand.
i know english isn't your native language - you need to be much more clear what you want to do.
from what you said, nothing makes sense.
you want to pitch bend 1/4 of a triangle? it doesn't make sense at all.
do you mean for the first 1/4 of the cycle you want to pitch bend?
do you mean you want to pitch bend a triangle by 1/4 of a semitone?
i don't understand.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 535 posts since 25 Nov, 2010
first 1/4 of the cycle i want pitchbend when downer pitching and upper pitching levels are for example -12 and 12 but now i know this dont need to complicate that that much.. just when i want pitchbend up set pitchbend lower level to 0 and use upscending sawtooth lfo.. now understand?:)
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
you'll need to use a combination of multiplications and clippers.
for example:
pitchbend -1 to +1 = "pb"
bend value = positive(pb) * up_range - positive(-pb) * down_range
then you can replace for example, up_range with a ramp/triangle waveform as desired, or just do this:
bend value = abs(pb) * up_range * up_modulation - abs(-pb) * down_range * down_modulation
just insert the modules to calculate this.
positive(x) = x*0.5 + abs(x*0.5)
or:
[positive] =
[x] -> [div 2] -> [abs] +
[x] -> [div 2] -> + -> output
for example:
pitchbend -1 to +1 = "pb"
bend value = positive(pb) * up_range - positive(-pb) * down_range
then you can replace for example, up_range with a ramp/triangle waveform as desired, or just do this:
bend value = abs(pb) * up_range * up_modulation - abs(-pb) * down_range * down_modulation
just insert the modules to calculate this.
positive(x) = x*0.5 + abs(x*0.5)
or:
[positive] =
[x] -> [div 2] -> [abs] +
[x] -> [div 2] -> + -> output
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 535 posts since 25 Nov, 2010
this is my first project in reaktor and i will be wery grateful aciddose if u can give me something readable and basicly understeable procedure.. i understead it as a procedure for someone who have reaktor in pinky.. i need know how module, macro, cell or etc to add and with what connect.. please.. cant u again copy your last post and somewhat rewrite it that way my effect build savior?:)
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
my advice is don't use reaktor because the interface is total trash. you'd be better off using something like synthedit combined with learning a bit of c coding and writing extension modules for it.
reaktor should have a "positive" or "diode" or some sort of module which already does what you want. in fact, if it's worth a dime it should already have a scaling module that will allow you to add modulation and scale the depth of the bender.
unfortunately (or, if you have my opinions, fortunately) i've never used reaktor for more than an hour or two, and during that time i found it didn't work anything like i'd expect a quality modular to function.
i forget the name of the software (currently still available for free) which it is in part based upon, and if it worked like that software it would be great.
edit: i remembered,
http://www.autodafe.net/sync-modular-freeware.html
i find this one much easier to use, and while experimenting you might want to use it instead. reaktor may be better for more advanced patches, but in my limited experience i wasn't shown anything that would make that true.
reaktor should have a "positive" or "diode" or some sort of module which already does what you want. in fact, if it's worth a dime it should already have a scaling module that will allow you to add modulation and scale the depth of the bender.
unfortunately (or, if you have my opinions, fortunately) i've never used reaktor for more than an hour or two, and during that time i found it didn't work anything like i'd expect a quality modular to function.
i forget the name of the software (currently still available for free) which it is in part based upon, and if it worked like that software it would be great.
edit: i remembered,
http://www.autodafe.net/sync-modular-freeware.html
i find this one much easier to use, and while experimenting you might want to use it instead. reaktor may be better for more advanced patches, but in my limited experience i wasn't shown anything that would make that true.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 535 posts since 25 Nov, 2010
i go read 2000 pages of manual.. that may help.. thanx aciddose for that script, that will help nearly enought and next for your recommendation for that free modular synth but iam sure it isnt that pro-based like everything from NI disexcept reaktor.. i want tools from pros.. dont write i have complexes - maybe i have but i love them.. i love NI....
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 535 posts since 25 Nov, 2010
everyone leaves me read that 2000 pages? just that only no..
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
my point was that you should work on the two things at different times.
these shouldn't be tied together.
using reaktor is one problem. (i pronounce it wreak-tor.)
you can handle that with the 2000 page manual, maybe. i couldn't handle it so i decided i'll probably never want to use reaktor unless they change it in a huge way.
it's much easier for me to write programs in c++ directly. what takes me a few minutes to write in c++, it will take me hours to figure out how to build the components and put them together the way i want in reaktor. i'm sure it will become easier in time, but it took me ten years to get to a point where i was really comfortable in c++ and i still learn things every day. why would i try to force myself to use another tool?
the issue of how to build the devices you want is completely separate. you could use c++, reaktor, sync, or many semi-modular or complete modular synthesizers to do what you want.
you could even draw this on paper and do the computation by hand to test it's function.
once you learn that, it becomes much easier. then you draw the circuit and perform the calculation in your mind only, and sometimes the result is almost immediate.
you just have to remember these are two problems, not one. i think it is more important to work on the problem of building the device you want first, then worry about how to use reaktor to do so. that's why i suggest you use sync to test your idea more quickly, then you will know what steps to take in reaktor to achieve your designs.
these shouldn't be tied together.
using reaktor is one problem. (i pronounce it wreak-tor.)
you can handle that with the 2000 page manual, maybe. i couldn't handle it so i decided i'll probably never want to use reaktor unless they change it in a huge way.
it's much easier for me to write programs in c++ directly. what takes me a few minutes to write in c++, it will take me hours to figure out how to build the components and put them together the way i want in reaktor. i'm sure it will become easier in time, but it took me ten years to get to a point where i was really comfortable in c++ and i still learn things every day. why would i try to force myself to use another tool?
the issue of how to build the devices you want is completely separate. you could use c++, reaktor, sync, or many semi-modular or complete modular synthesizers to do what you want.
you could even draw this on paper and do the computation by hand to test it's function.
once you learn that, it becomes much easier. then you draw the circuit and perform the calculation in your mind only, and sometimes the result is almost immediate.
you just have to remember these are two problems, not one. i think it is more important to work on the problem of building the device you want first, then worry about how to use reaktor to do so. that's why i suggest you use sync to test your idea more quickly, then you will know what steps to take in reaktor to achieve your designs.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 535 posts since 25 Nov, 2010
