Is ReFX Nexus2 worth getting?

[payt69]

Dance orchestra, Hollywood, Total Piano, Guitars, FM, Analog, Bigtone's 3 banks, Crank 1+2, Vocoder, Vintage drumkits, Pop, SID, - again, it's like saying that because Massive has all those dubstep/trance banks that you *have* to make dubstep.
Or that because you're a f**king idiot that you *have* to come into this thread and post idiotic statements about how everyone using Nexus must be making trance.

Theoretically it may not be geared to just Trancecrackers, but in practice it does appeal to them and their ilk the most for various reasons.

Of course a true musician would be able to use Nexus to make some good music.. heck you can give a real musician a spoon and he/she will be able to make music with it.

To really get an idea of whom Nexus is geared at, you just have to look at the 'professional artists' page on the refx website:

http://refx.com/artists/professionals/

There's a gazillion DANCE music produca's there, and they've placed Armin van Buren on top for a reason. Do you see any jazz musicians? Classical? Guitarists? Nope what you see is a who's who of dance music guys, and a lot of them are trancers (or similar/spinoff genres).

So it's Refx's own marketing that puts them in the box they're in.. and there's a reason for that.. their product appeals to a certain crowd. Mostly people who want quick and easy access to 'that sound'.


I've noticed on several forums (gearslutz, synthforum, KVR) that there's this whole slew of wannabe dance producers. They show up in forums with 'how to' questions.. mostly 'how do i make that kick' and 'how do i make that hoover/supersaw/trance pluck'? Those kinds of threads have become kindof legendary on KVR. That's the kind of crowd that Nexus appeals to, and not coincidentally it's also the crowd it's aimed at.

What it has to offer is quick and easy access to the sounds those people are looking for. No skills nescessary to figure out how to make those sounds yourself anymore.. they're in there, ready for use.

So it's kindof like buying a screwdriver.. you may be able to use it as a hammer, but it's true aim is screwing around

[braj]

:sigh:

[deathwish]

Dance orchestra, Hollywood, Total Piano, Guitars, FM, Analog, Bigtone's 3 banks, Crank 1+2, Vocoder, Vintage drumkits, Pop, SID, - again, it's like saying that because Massive has all those dubstep/trance banks that you *have* to make dubstep.
Or that because you're a f**king idiot that you *have* to come into this thread and post idiotic statements about how everyone using Nexus must be making trance.

Theoretically it may not be geared to just Trancecrackers, but in practice it does appeal to them and their ilk the most for various reasons.

Of course a true musician would be able to use Nexus to make some good music.. heck you can give a real musician a spoon and he/she will be able to make music with it.

To really get an idea of whom Nexus is geared at, you just have to look at the 'professional artists' page on the refx website:

http://refx.com/artists/professionals/

There's a gazillion DANCE music produca's there, and they've placed Armin van Buren on top for a reason. Do you see any jazz musicians? Classical? Guitarists? Nope what you see is a who's who of dance music guys, and a lot of them are trancers (or similar/spinoff genres).

So it's Refx's own marketing that puts them in the box they're in.. and there's a reason for that.. their product appeals to a certain crowd. Mostly people who want quick and easy access to 'that sound'.


I've noticed on several forums (gearslutz, synthforum, KVR) that there's this whole slew of wannabe dance producers. They show up in forums with 'how to' questions.. mostly 'how do i make that kick' and 'how do i make that hoover/supersaw/trance pluck'? Those kinds of threads have become kindof legendary on KVR. That's the kind of crowd that Nexus appeals to, and not coincidentally it's also the crowd it's aimed at.

What it has to offer is quick and easy to the sounds those people are looking for. No skills nescessary to figure out how to make those sounds yourself anymore.. they're in there, ready for use.

So it's kindof like buying a screwdriver.. you may be able to use it as a hammer, but it's true aim is screwing around

Agreed.

It's like telling a friend who produces industrial music, "I know that most of the factory presets may sound like epic piano with epic reverb, supersaws, hoover pads, and trance plucks that you only hear in music that makes you think about walking along the beach watching a Mediterranean sunset in your light weight white button down shirt and khaki cargo shorts holding hands with your overly tan girlfiend or at rave with glow sticks, but with a strong imagination you can create some pretty dark industrial.

If not you can always blow more cash on preset expansions specific to your genre!

Omg guyz how do I makez kick at 2:40 minutes????

[izonin]

There's a tattoo on her ass that says "Nexus".

[osiris]

I think most of the comments here are from people who don't own Nexus...

[shponglefan]

Am I the only who doesn't see the point of pointing out that there are a certain group of people wanting to make a certain type of music and there's a certain product geared at helping them do so?

Isn't this the case with, well, everything? It's called "having a viable business model".

[braj]

Am I the only who doesn't see the point of pointing out that there are a certain group of people wanting to make a certain type of music and there's a certain product geared at helping them do so?

Isn't this the case with, well, everything? It's called "having a viable business model".

Yeah it's kind of like complaining that a lawn mower doesn't re-tile your bathroom.

[osiris]

Or, geez that violin sounds just like every other violin. Isn't there a different setting on this thing?

[braj]

Or, geez that violin sounds just like every other violin. Isn't there a different setting on this thing?

Yeah I was thinking how in synthesis it has taken a long time to finally get realistic string sounds (I remember when synths were reviewed way back in the day, that how realistic they could get to a real violin or string section was a big deal, a benchmark). Now we are complaining that they can easily nail the sounds certain people require? Kind of weird IMO. I don't do dance, don't care for hoovers and wobble bass but if you want that and Nexus does that, what is the problem? If an 'industrial' composer buys a piano and then complains that it doesn't do industrial, whose fault is that? It is definitely not the piano's.

[aciddose]

Or, geez that violin sounds just like every other violin. Isn't there a different setting on this thing?

my violin has a built in arpeggiator!

[payt69]

Or, geez that violin sounds just like every other violin. Isn't there a different setting on this thing?

Yeah I was thinking how in synthesis it has taken a long time to finally get realistic string sounds (I remember when synths were reviewed way back in the day, that how realistic they could get to a real violin or string section was a big deal, a benchmark). Now we are complaining that they can easily nail the sounds certain people require? Kind of weird IMO. I don't do dance, don't care for hoovers and wobble bass but if you want that and Nexus does that, what is the problem? If an 'industrial' composer buys a piano and then complains that it doesn't do industrial, whose fault is that? It is definitely not the piano's.

To me a synth is an instrument in it's own right.. it doesn't have to sound 'realistic' to me, even though there's place for those kinds of sounds too sometimes.

To me Nexus is just too restrictive. It kills the spirit of experimentation and exploration that once defined the electronic music genre. Now everyone can sound alike with an all singing and all dancing plugin.. well if that's your cup of tea, have at it. Personally i'm not interested in sounding 'like that guy' any more than i am in one of those keyboards that have buttons that say 'rhumba, disco, pop' etc.

That's what Nexus represents as far as i'm concerned: the trance version of one of those preset keyboards. It has been proven in a lab under scientific conditions that those are decidedly uncool

@Osiris: it would be an issue if you were used to violins that do have options to modify the sound. The one that doesn't have those options would be regarded as inferior. If you have a violin that only has 3 buttons saying 'Trance 1 2 and 3' which churn out trance presets, would you be interested? I don't think such a 'violin' would be worth the name 'violin'. Maybe you'd argue 'yeah but it sounds just like Armin van Buren, and he uses it too!', to which i'd reply: so what?

I'm kindof against anything that takes things out of the hands of the artist and into the hands of people with a business plan. That's what kills art every time.. check out the charts if you need proof.

[bronxsound]

this thread is nearly as funny as any MAC vs PC one

question was: Is ReFX Nexus2 worth getting?
my answer: yes it is if you can afford it. simple as that

[rob_lee]

this thread is nearly as funny as any MAC vs PC one

question was: Is ReFX Nexus2 worth getting?
my answer: yes it is if you can afford it. simple as that

+1

@OP

Just buy the ROMPLER and be done. There's no demo but the quality of the expansions i have heard are top notch espescially the latest one.



Rob

[chiron2009]

this thread is nearly as funny as any MAC vs PC one

question was: Is ReFX Nexus2 worth getting?
my answer: yes it is if you can afford it. simple as that

+1

@OP

Just buy the ROMPLER and be done. There's no demo but the quality of the expansions i have heard are top notch espescially the latest one.



Rob

I decided earlier in this thread I was going to get it, lol. This thread has definitely gone further than I imagined - 140 replies!? At the moment it's expensive for most people to buy but I plan to get it when it comes down in price at Christmas (if thay have a xmas sale this year).

Thanks.

[chiron2009]

No one needs to reply anymore! o.o