KVR Audio

Jbravo · Post by **Jbravo** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:19 pm

Hi folks

I'm setting up a simple tracker system on my laptop with some free VST effects but they have to be without their own GUI. I need an EQ plugin and the only one I can find mentioned on the net is one called LizzEQ, but the original download site is long gone and all other links are dead. Can anyone suggest another plugin or tell me where I can get LizzEQ?

chuck death · Post by **chuck death** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:29 pm

No idea about LizzEQ but I do know where you can get a GUI-less EQ. Go to xhip's site and scroll down past the plugins with GUIs and you'll see the links to the xhip's old plugins.

In the packs there are plenty of other plugins without GUIs too which you may find useful for your new setup. Have fun.

Jbravo · Post by **Jbravo** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:40 pm

thanks for the heads up on those plugs. The EQ is one band only, I was really hoping for a multiband EQ. The other plugs in the pack may be handy though

Jbravo · Post by **Jbravo** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:13 am

Just in case anyone else is looking around for me, you can call off the search, I found one called JSEQ6 - and it was in my VST folder all the time!

chuck death · Post by **chuck death** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:44 pm

Jbravo wrote:thanks for the heads up on those plugs. The EQ is one band only, I was really hoping for a multiband EQ. The other plugs in the pack may be handy though

There are two EQs in that pack. You should have checked the other one as well...

Glad you found what you were looking for in the end. By the way it's by Jerome Schmitt and he has several other GUI-less plugins available on his page: JS Plugins.

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Fri May 11, 2012 3:46 pm

the one eq labelled old uses a special allpass band/notch while the second one uses a "state-variable" filter.

those were only ever experimental. i definitely need to update them.

guiless plugins, if anybody ever needed these they should definitely ask the authors of the plugins they're interested in.

odds are likely it might just be a single line commented out and a recompile and you'll have the plugin without a gui. that's the case for mine and in fact since i use a templated script to build my effects package it's a single commented line and one compile and i get the whole package.

Jbravo · Post by **Jbravo** » Fri May 11, 2012 6:57 pm

thanks for explaining aciddose

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Fri May 11, 2012 8:55 pm

you could also create a wrapper - it's lame because it doesn't save you all the bitmaps and stuff in memory if they're loaded on start-up and not delayed to initialization (mine are) and without recompile you won't get rid of the extra size of the binary itself which although small might be important in some cases.

still though the wrapper plugin would only need to wrap 100% of everything except editor->open, returning null from there and the plugin would never be asked to open it's gui, the host would assume it hasn't got one.

i could create one fairly easily for you where you'd rename it like wrapnogui_mypluginname.dll and it'll load mypluginname.dll when it's loaded. i just don't have a x64 system to test on at the moment.

actually it could load up from a different path too so your host doesn't doubly list everything. could be a config file like wrapnogui.ini where: path = ../guiplugins/ or similar.

can't you find something like that out there already? it's really super trivial. the issue is just parameters that aren't automatable - very common that you can only access some features from the gui because there is no reasonable way to control them from a 0 - 1 value range. so for those plugins this wouldn't work.

free EQ with no gui? LizzEQ?