OXIUM -New Xils-lab synthesizer- [ Jp8 Comparison :) ]

[hakey]

Well people who can read will make their own opinion about your posts.

They can certainly check out the points I've raised - and I believe they are all valid - and then make up their own minds.

I never believed you had the first real and authentic interest in Oxium, except to desperatly try to prove it sounds sOooooOOo bad. Plasticky. Noisy. With bad attacks, bad releases, bad filters

Where did I say *plasticky* or *bad* (attacks/releases)?

Btw, I do find your taking such offence to anything other than positive criticism a little odd seeing as you've never been shy of dishing it out yourself. You reap what you sow.

[ariston]

Actually, I can hear what hakey is talking about, as well. It's more apparent when the resonance isn't turned up all the way. I don't think this is all that important (I find the effect to be rather pleasant), but it IS there.

[Nielzie]

...as an experienced/knowledgeable and well respected sound designer, what is your overall opinion on this synth if I may ask?

not going there - sorry!

Ohhh ok

I read your comment on the filter resonance "noise" so I thought it would be interesting to know what your opinion is about other aspects of the synth too

[Lotuzia]

4 days left for intro price

[Trakstar]

One last question - what's going on with this white noise that's added with increased resonance [try this: set all osc gains to zero, open filter cut off fully and then slowly increase resonance - the noise becomes apparent from 50% res onwards and is still audible if you mix in some oscillator signal]

must work for Uhe too

[Lotuzia]

Actually, I can hear what hakey is talking about, as well. It's more apparent when the resonance isn't turned up all the way. I don't think this is all that important (I find the effect to be rather pleasant), but it IS there.

Actually it will really be related to the level you set for the oscillators in the different mixers.

Oxium is very versatile.

[ariston]

Actually, I can hear what hakey is talking about, as well. It's more apparent when the resonance isn't turned up all the way. I don't think this is all that important (I find the effect to be rather pleasant), but it IS there.

Actually it will really be related to the level you set for the oscillators in the different mixers.

Well, it is very audible when the oscillators are effectively turned off and you're just hearing the self-resonating filter. I have absolutely no idea about the technical background, but I don't hear this white-noise-like sound in the filters of other synths (which shall go unnamed here for the sake of peace). I'm just curious: bug or feature?

[Lotuzia]

Well imho a feature, but like we saw, some will think otherwise.

With Oxium we were not tied by the necessity to emulate this or that filter strict behaviour. So we just tuned our own filters with some settings we thought were nice sounding.

By chance, or maybe it was subliminal and subconscious, the choices we made lead to some settings matching very closely the Jupiter 8 for example, even with hi rez settings. This said, just like the gentleman who compared the two noticed it, the oscillator level does matter.

I'll make more presets with JP8 feel once I have finished my holydays. But Oxium can have its own specific colours as well, and its not restricted to the filter design : All oscillator waveforms minus square have PWM, and you can cumulate the waveforms, so all in all a lot of things concur to Oxium having a quite large sonic palette.

[contrary]

Oxium sounds very good to my ears ;

However in makes me near apoplectic to discover that the analog sound it contains has the ingredient known as "white noise" . Those beloved and highly regarded analog synths of yester year had pristine circuits , with absolutley inperceptible, impossibly minuscule noise floors!!!



I refuse to use DMG's compressive because it has a mixer that allows some of the dreaded and almost criminal "white noise " as a part of it's attempt to sound "analog"....


When I go to a Mexican restaurant around here , I always insist that they never use cilantro as an ingredient when making the dish of my choice ....


It's amazing ( Ok , not so much knowing human nature) What a pedantic bunch we KVR synth heads are !! We'll talk about every component and forget that in the end it's the sum of those parts that matter. it's the SOUNDS!!!


I can see now why so many synths have a solo developer .. too many cooks spoil the stew !!!

Great job on this synth XLIS .




Feature request! NO cilantro in your next synth !!!!!

[hakey]

One last question - what's going on with this white noise that's added with increased resonance

must work for Uhe too

Nope - apart from owning some of their pretty damned good software, I have no connection to u-he whatsoever.

Btw, any ideas for the next sock name when you get the inevitable ban on this one?

[hakey]

Those beloved and highly regarded analog synths of yester year had pristine circuits , with absolutley inperceptible, impossibly minuscule noise floors!!!

Indeed. But there's noise floors and there's noise flaws.

I don't remember any of my old analogue synths exhibiting this res>noise behaviour - certainly not to a degree where it was obvious as is the case with Oxium.

[liquidsound]

I'm still have a problem with the Oxium inside the MUX with the GUI open.
No other synth has this problem. The GUI needs to be fine tuned.
As I said, no other synth so far malfunctions in it, which by now, the MUX is becoming the #1 tools in my arsenal.
I'm modulating the heck out of Oxium and it's becoming a modular synth when inside the MUX, but you'll need to fix it!!!!
I love the sound of Oxium but......

[JoeCat]

Oxium sounds very good to my ears ;

However in makes me near apoplectic to discover that the analog sound it contains has the ingredient known as "white noise" . Those beloved and highly regarded analog synths of yester year had pristine circuits , with absolutley inperceptible, impossibly minuscule noise floors!!!
...

The slider knobs were always cracking off my ARP Omni. I only have the demo of Oxium, but so far those knobs have stayed on - great job!

I think it's a fine sounding synth. As far as the filter noise, like everyone else I can reproduce it, but I'm not sure what the big deal is - seems like the rare self-resonating patch that will be affected. With oscillators in the mix resonance at that frequency is normally just unpleasant. At any rate it's a fine sounding filter. If this were a hardware synth we'd all love it and years later discuss that "weird filter quirk" we used to get a boiling tea kettle sound with whistle.

[Lotuzia]

I'm still have a problem with the Oxium inside the MUX with the GUI open.
No other synth has this problem. The GUI needs to be fine tuned.
As I said, no other synth so far malfunctions in it, which by now, the MUX is becoming the #1 tools in my arsenal.
I'm modulating the heck out of Oxium and it's becoming a modular synth when inside the MUX, but you'll need to fix it!!!!
I love the sound of Oxium but......

Hi LiquidSound,

We'll have a look at this asap.

Just drove 12 hours today to come back home : Holydays are finished

More on this issue later, or on Xils forum.

LtZ

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