KVR Audio

soulata · Post by **soulata** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:05 am

I could buy one with all expansion slots ful for 400$.

what do you say?

k

Neil G · Post by **Neil G** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:08 am

my homie just got one and cant stop bragging about and he's a gear head so i take evrything he says seriously.. if you could see his studio youd think so too.. i say go for it.

soulata · Post by **soulata** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:31 am

I'll demo it hard early next week. thanks

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:33 am

Things to think about -

Do you plan on editing? The JV-2080 had a much better interface. I almost bought the 1080 until I heard teh 2080 was coming out, waited, and pre-ordered it instead. Still have my 2080 in the rack to this day.

4 boards - Are they the boards you'd want or not? The SR-JV boards are harder to come by, and the SRX boards are not compatible with the 1080. I'm sure you can get them on EBay though.

$400 with 4 boards is ok as long as you really want those boards. It's probably worth it for the boards alone, honestly.

Devon

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:39 am

Found the full list of available boards too -

SR-JV80-1 Pop
SR-JV80-2 Orchestral
SR-JV80-3 Piano
SR-JV80-4 Vintage Synth
SR-JV80-5 World
SR-JV80-7 Super Sound Set
SR-JV80-8 60s & 70s Keyboards
SR-JV80-9 Session
SR-JV80-10 Bass & Drums
SR-JV80-11 Techno Collection
SR-JV80-12 Hip Hop Collection
SR-JV80-13 Vocal Collection
SR-JV80-14 Asia
SR-JV80-15 Special FX
SR-JV80-16 Orchestral II
SR-JV80-17 Country Collection
SR-JV80-18 Latin
SR-JV80-19 House Collection

soulata · Post by **soulata** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:43 am

The one that's for sale's got Orchestral expansion (not sure about the other 3, will see when I get it).

I won't be editing much though.

k

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:48 am

The Orch board wasn't bad. I played all the sounds on that card at the store back in 1997, but never bought it. It sounded better than the default internal sounds, from what I remember. Still, it doens't compare to the best sample libraries. STILL, many people prefer it for its dynamics.

It's still better than some of the latest software ROMplers.

Devon

vvanrij · Post by **vvanrij** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:51 am

I wouldn't buy it, you can get better sounding software 'sample-synths', cheaper too

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:05 am

vvanrij wrote:I wouldn't buy it, you can get better sounding software 'sample-synths', cheaper too

Such as....?

soulata · Post by **soulata** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:51 am

vvanrij wrote:I wouldn't buy it, you can get better sounding software 'sample-synths', cheaper too

maybe, but I'm already running Ableton Live on stage, and JV1080 might be better choice than taxing my comp (AMD 1.x M) with additional samples/synths.

k

Kim Olesen · Post by **Kim Olesen** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:04 pm

Don't get the 2080. In order to have more sounds and expansions they cut down on the quality of the da converters. The 1080 simply sounds better for that fact. When i do session work at other studios i always bring my 1080 and my computer. It's still a great machine.

spectrum · Post by **spectrum** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:48 pm

Kim Olesen wrote:Don't get the 2080. In order to have more sounds and expansions they cut down on the quality of the da converters. The 1080 simply sounds better for that fact. When i do session work at other studios i always bring my 1080 and my computer. It's still a great machine.

This is sort of true and sort of false....here's the deal on the difference in D/A converters between the 1080 and 2080:

• TRUE - They are different indeed and sound quite different from each other.

• FALSE - However, this was not done for cost reasons. In fact, Roland upgraded the 2080s converters with newer and more expensive ones than the 1080s converters. But like many things, newer is not necessarily better.

So which one is actually "better" sounding?

In terms of being a faithful representation of the factory sounds, probably the 1080 - because when I was at Roland, I tweaked every one of those thousands of factory and expansion board sounds to sound just right on a 1080...(not a 2080, which is much darker sounding.)

So I agree with you that the 1080 represents the "classic JV" sound best, but the reasons for the difference in 2080 sound weren't because Roland was trying to save money on cheaper converters....but that they were messing around with something that already had a good vibe to it, and that usually doesn't improve things.

"If it 'aint broke, don't fix it" I always say...

spectrum

Ildon · Post by **Ildon** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:52 pm

Since you're not going to be doing a lot of editing, I wouldn't recommend it. The JV/XPs shine when you sit down with it for a week and come up with a bank of your own stuff, otherwise it sounds... well... egh.

Roland really needs to fire its preset guys.

diverdee · Post by **diverdee** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:53 pm

kevvvvv · Post by **kevvvvv** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:02 am

When I used my JV1080 I used to do whole midi sysex dumps (remember them

)

This was to and from my Pro 24 (Cubase before it was Cubase

)

JV was particularly good at receiving sequencer setup sysex info.

I thought this was great at the time, as send/recall and sysex dumps were new and not that reliable.

I also think setups could be saved in the JV's memory or on a card (anyone help me on this?)

So maybe this is encouraging news for playing JV with Live on stage

...

Eric ... did you do the cards too?

Is Roland JV1080 still worth buying?