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EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:41 pm

I've owned Spire for some time now, and frequently go to Studio One just to use it. I tend to prefer to work in Reason, though, so the fact that they're finally getting underway has my interest.

Curious if it'll turn out majorly crippled or a fully functional 1:1 port? Looks like it's called "ReSpire", so probably not the latter....

Source:

https://www.facebook.com/revealsoundspi ... =3&theater

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:48 pm

At least the oscillator and filter sections seem to be fully functional.

I really wonder how they solved the tabbed operation of the envelopes, and LFO's, it doesn't look changed to the VSTi version, and i was always under the impression that a tabbed/paged design is not possible with the actual RE SDK. I have no idea how other RE's do this, if possible, so take that with a pinch of salt.

BTW, i already wrote that on Reasontalk, but, it's fantastic that Reason folks get to have Spire as a synth. Frankly, with RE's or without, i always felt Reason was a bit short of a real blockbuster synth, and Spire definitely is one. Reveal-Sound will know what they're doing with porting Spire to RE, so i figure this will be a major success, when they release it.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:05 pm

chk071 wrote:At least the oscillator and filter sections seem to be fully functional. I really wonder how they solved the tabbed operation of the envelopes, and LFO's, it doesn't look changed to the VSTi version, and i was always under the impression that a tabbed/paged design is not possible with the actual RE SDK. I have no idea how other RE's do this, if possible, so take that with a pinch of salt.

BTW, i already wrote that on Reasontalk, but, it's fantastic that Reason folks get to have Spire as a synth. Frankly, with RE's or without, i always felt Reason was a bit short of a real blockbuster synth, and Spire definitely is one. Reveal-Sound will know what they're doing with porting Spire to RE, so i figure this will be a major success, when they release it.

Totally agree! Though Blamsoft's Expanse really raised the bar for Reasoners very much. It's a bang-up synth that's probably the best available for Reason, IMHO.

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:10 pm

Yep, it's great news that 10 years after the release of Massive and Sylenth1, there will finally be a decent synth in Reasonland.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:17 pm

izonin wrote:Yep, it's great news that 10 years after the release of Massive and Sylenth1, there will finally be a decent synth in Reasonland.

Meh, there's been decent synths before now, but that's an entirely different conversation.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:37 am

Can't help but sympathise with that a bit though, at least the stock devices are, IMO, far away from even being in the same league as Sylenth1, and i do think that Spire sounds quite a bit better than Sylenth1, so... lots to look forward to for Reasonland.

Expanse looks like a nice synth though. I didn't demo it personally, but the sound examples sounded good. Wasn't too impressed with Antidote, the other much talked about RE synth, i must admit. Surely an okay synth, but it sounded a bit boring to me. Each to his like.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:39 am

chk071 wrote:

Can't help but sympathise with that a bit though, at least the stock devices are, IMO, far away from even being in the same league as Sylenth1, and i do think that Spire sounds quite a bit better than Sylenth1, so... lots to look forward to for Reasonland.

Expanse looks like a nice synth though. I didn't demo it personally, but the sound examples sounded good. Wasn't too impressed with Antidote, the other much talked about RE synth, i must admit. Surely an okay synth, but it sounded a bit boring to me. Each to his like.

I own both Spire and Expanse. Being intimately familiar with Spire, I have to say - Expanse can easily give it a run for its money. I mean, Expanse has nowhere near the amount of libraries that Reveal Sound has built up for Spire over the past few years, but as far as sound goes - it's top notch. Blamsoft/eXode really knocked it out of the park, IMHO.

That said, I digress... really hoping Reveal Sound can pull off a decent port of Spire. Or ReSpire. Or whatever it ends up being... LOL!

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:32 am

The synth seems to be missing the whole effects section, the effects are very important part of the Spire sound. Also I'm not sure it has stepper and arp, the modulator section seems to have only 8 slots which probably correspond to 4 LFOs and 4 envelopes. Also where is the matrix?

Taurus · Post by **Taurus** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:53 am

Wow, Reason 9 sounds the same as I left it 2005. A new synth push the old reason plastic sound to todays level.

burkek · Post by **burkek** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:20 am

I don't know why people stick with Reason. It must be similar to having a handcuff fetish.

KEv

eXode · Post by **eXode** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:41 am

No offence EnochLight, but seriously - what is the point of this thread, except possible (probable) troll baiting?

Reveal Sound themselves even refer to it as a "pre-alpha" which means that a lot of things can change on the way, so it's pretty meaningless to even speculate at this point.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:46 pm

eXode wrote:No offence EnochLight, but seriously - what is the point of this thread, except possible (probable) troll baiting?

Reveal Sound themselves even refer to it as a "pre-alpha" which means that a lot of things can change on the way, so it's pretty meaningless to even speculate at this point.

Huh?!! It's a thread meant to gauge interest and discuss. How could this possibly be meant as trolling??

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:48 pm

recursive one wrote:

The synth seems to be missing the whole effects section, the effects are very important part of the Spire sound. Also I'm not sure it has stepper and arp, the modulator section seems to have only 8 slots which probably correspond to 4 LFOs and 4 envelopes. Also where is the matrix?

Yeah, this concerns me as well. It's an early alpha though, so hopefully things will improve.

nIGhT-SoN · Post by **nIGhT-SoN** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:57 pm

izonin wrote:Yep, it's great news that 10 years after the release of Massive and Sylenth1, there will finally be a decent synth in Reasonland.

I would trade anytime Sylenth1 for Thor.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:07 pm

I also guess there's a lot "subject to change" about this, but, i don't see an issue in creating a thread about this, after all, Reveal-Sound "revealed" that they're working on it, so, fair enough to discuss and speculate.

Reveal Sound's Spire Rack Extension coming to Reason soon