Which software emulations can null files from my analog synths?

[IncarnateX]

Hi
Recently there have been rumors that analog modelling technology has reached yet unheard precision. Since my analog synths take up space, I seek an emulation, which can null audio-files recorded from my analogs, not at least so I can assure myself that I am just too stoned when I believe I hear a difference.

I have long wished for an objective criterion to decide to which extent I am deluding myself or objectively correct when I prefer one synth above another.

Of course, we will as usual neglect the fact that we also have a brain whose processing are based on our lifelong experiences and that stimulation thus may be processed differently. Since many do not use its capacities anyway, you can ignore the issue when answering the question.

PS: Needless to say that your examples better be my favorite emulations to convince me it scientifically proven and not just fake news and fabrication, but apart from that, I would be grateful for any suggestions in accordance with my own preferences.

[DJ Warmonger]

Uhh, you'd have to ensure identical frequency in (drifitng) analog synth and identical (random and continuous) phase, so it's not going to happen, ever. Reality is, even two instances of same analog synths are not exact copies of each other.

So, if you desire scientific precision, go spend some thousands for your unmatched precious analog synths ;P

[Mushy Mushy]

Two analog synths won't null anyway, hence why they're so coveted.

[Elektronisch]

Hi
Recently there have been rumors that analog modelling technology has reached yet unheard precision. Since my analog synths take up space, I seek an emulation, which can null audio-files recorded from my analogs, not at least so I can assure myself that I am just too stoned when I believe I hear a difference.

I have long wished for an objective criterion to decide to which extent I am deluding myself or objectively correct when I prefer one synth above another.

Of course, we will as usual neglect the fact that we also have a brain whose processing are based on our lifelong experiences and that stimulation thus may be processed differently. Since many do not use its capacities anyway, you can ignore the issue when answering the question.

PS: Needless to say that your examples better be my favorite emulations to convince me it scientifically proven and not just fake news and fabrication, but apart from that, I would be grateful for any suggestions in accordance with my own preferences.

After reading this i actually dont even know what to think about you because:

1. Analog is not precise, if you want precision go digital
2. You will not beable to ever ever ever in 1000000 years to nulify analog, because its not precise and exactly that is one of the qualities analog has.
3. You are very biased towards analog or you have been living under a rock in the past 10 years

Anyways here you go:

[fmr]

Two analog synths won't null anyway, hence why they're so coveted.

Uh... WHAT? They are coveted because they don't null each other? Really?

Wow, and I have been convinced all these years that the ones (not ALL of them) that are coveted are because of their sound.

You are right about that they don't null each other, thoug. That's not an advantage, nor a disadvantage (it may be one or the other, depending on what you want). That's simply their nature.

[Mushy Mushy]

My point was that they have a character and a personality.

[fmr]

My point was that they have a character and a personality.

I know. Was just joking

Anyway, "character" and "personality" are subjective qualities that can be attributed to digital synths too, as well as to any musical instrument (even ethnic, rudimentary ones).

[IncarnateX]

Ah, come on guy. I heard it from another thread with very very very big self-proclaimed authorities and thus it must be true: Personal experience and preferences do not matter anymore as far as emulation concerns, only facts. Thus, there must be smoking gun somewhere. Is it a secret? An amazing but yet unpatented scientific discovery?

And uh, uh No talk of bias. Remember to ignore our brains in this discussion, may that be as a mean for- or topic of the conversation. The good old KVR way, ya know

[Mushy Mushy]

My point was that they have a character and a personality.

I know. Was just joking

Anyway, "character" and "personality" are subjective qualities that can be attributed to digital synths too, as well as to any musical instrument (even ethnic, rudimentary ones).

[mcbpete]

You could run it into the DAW and then mute that track - That'd null it good and proper like.

[fmr]

Ah, come on guy. I heard it from another thread with very very very big self-proclaimed authorities and thus it must be true: Personal experience and preferences do not matter anymore as far as emulation concerns, only facts. Thus, there must be smoking gun somewhere. Is it a secret? An amazing but yet unpatented scientific discovery?

And what exactly have you heard?

[Chapelle]

Fruity Loops Sampler

[Teksonik]

I seek an emulation, which can null audio-files recorded from my analogs,

Anyway this belongs in the Hardware sub-forum. That way those of us who have moved on from inferior technology can be spared such ridiculous threads.......

[Elektronisch]

Ah, come on guy. I heard it from another thread with very very very big self-proclaimed authorities and thus it must be true: Personal experience and preferences do not matter anymore as far as emulation concerns, only facts. Thus, there must be smoking gun somewhere. Is it a secret? An amazing but yet unpatented scientific discovery?

And uh, uh No talk of bias. Remember to ignore our brains in this discussion, may that be as a mean for- or topic of the conversation. The good old KVR way, ya know

Can you rephrase what you said? i have a hard time understanding you at all.

[IncarnateX]

And what exactly have you heard?

As far as I recall: That a certain emulation synth's precision can not longer be disputed as to whether you are able to hear a difference between it and analog synths in headphones and to prefer the analogs. If you think you do, it is because you are old and have shitty ears that cannot hear the warmth of higher frequencies. And it is all backed up objectively. There was a lot of other things to it but must have been too scientific to be comprehensible to me. Forgive my ignorance.