I really like AAS Chromaphone. It does physical modelling of (chromatic) percussion and beyond very nicely. Are there any other plug-in's that do such emulations? Hardware or software. Of hardware I found the Korg Wavedrum.
Thanks for your time.
Chromaphone. Any competitors?
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- KVRian
- 518 posts since 28 Dec, 2007 from The Netherlands
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- KVRAF
- 8088 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
Modelonia, although I personally felt like it was better suited for weird hybrid brass/string stuff than percussive sounds.
Tassman and Steampipe, the "big" physical modeling plugins before Chromaphone.
In Eurorack, Intellijel Plonk was coded by AAS and is pretty similar in a lot of ways to Chromaphone.
Mutable Instruments Rings is a fantastic modal resonator that does chromatic percussion, has a couple of strings modes (super-clean Karplus-Strong) and most importantly, an audio input so you can feed it with anything (including feedback) making it much more open to experimentation, and just as much of an effect as it is an instrument. (However, a lot of people don't go beyond the basic built-in exciter, which is just a filtered impulse.)
Mutable Instruments Plaits has a couple of models from Rings in it, among several other synthesis models, but no audio input.
Mutable Instruments Elements is a much larger (and somewhat older) version of Rings, with a less sophisticated resonator but a built-in exciter section that does plucks and mallets as well as bowed and blown, and built-in reverb. I prefer Rings, but some people like the more encapsulated form.
Tassman and Steampipe, the "big" physical modeling plugins before Chromaphone.
In Eurorack, Intellijel Plonk was coded by AAS and is pretty similar in a lot of ways to Chromaphone.
Mutable Instruments Rings is a fantastic modal resonator that does chromatic percussion, has a couple of strings modes (super-clean Karplus-Strong) and most importantly, an audio input so you can feed it with anything (including feedback) making it much more open to experimentation, and just as much of an effect as it is an instrument. (However, a lot of people don't go beyond the basic built-in exciter, which is just a filtered impulse.)
Mutable Instruments Plaits has a couple of models from Rings in it, among several other synthesis models, but no audio input.
Mutable Instruments Elements is a much larger (and somewhat older) version of Rings, with a less sophisticated resonator but a built-in exciter section that does plucks and mallets as well as bowed and blown, and built-in reverb. I prefer Rings, but some people like the more encapsulated form.
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- KVRAF
- 6780 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
https://physicalaudio.co.uk/PA3
this one is among the weirder, but surprisingly organic.
for less weirder, AudioSpillage DrumSpillage and ImageLine drummax have some physical modelling involved. Imageline sakura is a string equivalent of Chromaphone.
Pianoteq has some marimbas and xylophones - and PAN drums! (i think also hang.). Pan drums are pretty cool from Pianoteq.
this one is among the weirder, but surprisingly organic.
for less weirder, AudioSpillage DrumSpillage and ImageLine drummax have some physical modelling involved. Imageline sakura is a string equivalent of Chromaphone.
Pianoteq has some marimbas and xylophones - and PAN drums! (i think also hang.). Pan drums are pretty cool from Pianoteq.
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- KVRist
- 399 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
Of course Yamaha's old "virtual acoustic" synthesizers like VL-1 or VP-1 come to mind. Reduced versions of this technology were implemented in other synthesizers too, like EX5 etc. I own a VL-1m and it sounds fantastic, but is very hard to program. Chromaphone, which I use a lot, is a very good sounding plug in but not as deep. AAS String Studio is also very capable.
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- KVRAF
- 27000 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Kaivo can do some wonderful percussion sounds... heavy on the CPU but you get something for that CPU use.
String Studio is cool
Sculpture in Logic is a great modeling synth too.
String Studio is cool
Sculpture in Logic is a great modeling synth too.
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- KVRAF
- 4589 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
NI Prism is a modal resonator, which can be used either as an instrument or effect plugin. Has some additive-style controls for mode manipulation.
Can't tell much more, didn't learn this plugin yet.
Can't tell much more, didn't learn this plugin yet.
Blog ------------- YouTube channel
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 518 posts since 28 Dec, 2007 from The Netherlands
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- KVRAF
- 1902 posts since 14 Jul, 2018
EaganMatrix has also a physical modeling engine
https://www.hakenaudio.com/sound-engine
https://www.hakenaudio.com/sound-engine
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 518 posts since 28 Dec, 2007 from The Netherlands
I got a Korg Z1 and made 2 sound banks for it. I love what it is offering for sound design, but (chromatic) percussion? (besides VPM = FM)
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- KVRAF
- 2000 posts since 5 Jan, 2003 from Brookings, OR
Melda's MSoundFactory has a really deep and flexible Modal filter, plus many different oscillator types and variations you can use as impulses, including an also very flexible sampler, as well as a dedicated String modeler and a Resonator. It's completely modular, so there's hardly any limits to the sort of structures you can build in a single patch, such as multiple osc going into multiple resonant banks, or being mixed to go into a single one with the mix levels being modulated, or the same impulse being sent to multiple modulated destinations, inserting all sorts of FX and filters between impulses and resonators, unisons, harmonizers, etc, etc…plus FX of course, including the complete MXXX.
It's a bit boggling:)
Falcon's got a lovely string modeler, too, also based on using samples as impulses, and anything can be dragged in for that, so it can go way beyond just strings…
The Reaktor User Library has over 10 pages of physical modeling entries (15 per page), mostly string-oriented but not all, and most either start in weird territory or can easily travel there:)
There's a really nice modeling synth called Resonans available as a Rack Extension for Reason.
It's a bit boggling:)
Falcon's got a lovely string modeler, too, also based on using samples as impulses, and anything can be dragged in for that, so it can go way beyond just strings…
The Reaktor User Library has over 10 pages of physical modeling entries (15 per page), mostly string-oriented but not all, and most either start in weird territory or can easily travel there:)
There's a really nice modeling synth called Resonans available as a Rack Extension for Reason.
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- KVRAF
- 2000 posts since 5 Jan, 2003 from Brookings, OR
Yeah, it's really cool. But the dongles are bit costly!muki wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:00 pm EaganMatrix has also a physical modeling engine
https://www.hakenaudio.com/sound-engine
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- KVRian
- 777 posts since 16 Jan, 2019 from deep inside
also Sakura:
https://www.image-line.com/plugins/Synths/Sakura/
https://www.image-line.com/plugins/Synths/Sakura/
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- KVRAF
- 5440 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
Just a question: why do you ask? You can get the AAS Chromaphone in very affordable price in sales, why not buy that. A bit lower price is then free - are you looking for that?