Synths with best sequencers, arpeggiators, and msegs?
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- KVRist
- 168 posts since 21 Feb, 2024
I’ve been looking at synths that best allow for creating repeating musical phrases that can be modulated as they play, and a few have caught my interest for a future purchase: Zebra HZ (or Zebra 3 if it comes out this year), DS Thorn, and maybe Myth. I wonder if there are others out there I’m not aware of.
Synths I already have are limited as sequencers or arpeggiators, including Massive X, Phase Plant, and Halion 7. Sometimes it’s a matter of having an arpeggiator or mseg or step-able lfo that doesn’t accurately indicate changes in semitones when modulating pitches (Massive X and Phase Plant), or the sequencer that does give semitone info is too tiny to work with comfortably (Halion 7). (I realize Myth doesn't offer a semitone sequencer, but I still like it for other reasons.) Any suggestions? I would especially like one that handles at least 32 steps and gives semitone info. Thanks!
Synths I already have are limited as sequencers or arpeggiators, including Massive X, Phase Plant, and Halion 7. Sometimes it’s a matter of having an arpeggiator or mseg or step-able lfo that doesn’t accurately indicate changes in semitones when modulating pitches (Massive X and Phase Plant), or the sequencer that does give semitone info is too tiny to work with comfortably (Halion 7). (I realize Myth doesn't offer a semitone sequencer, but I still like it for other reasons.) Any suggestions? I would especially like one that handles at least 32 steps and gives semitone info. Thanks!
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- KVRist
- 311 posts since 11 Nov, 2012
Steppers and arps are kind of my thing. Frankly there are no synths that can compare to external plugs for this - NORA was a dream, but it fell off the planet. Phrasebox is excellent. Thesys is very good. Animation Station has its points. Stepic is awesome but I'm still trying to get my head around it. But Stochas is superb..... and *free* from Surge Team.
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- KVRAF
- 35689 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Pigments has a pretty good arg and sequencer. Spire has a good stepper.
Both are surely not comparable with some external arpeggiators, sequencers, and step LFOs like the one in Cableguys Shaperbox though.
Both are surely not comparable with some external arpeggiators, sequencers, and step LFOs like the one in Cableguys Shaperbox though.
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- KVRian
- 1411 posts since 1 Jul, 2023
Pigments sequencer is excellent, great per step randomisation and useful if you want to drive external devices. Current has an interesting chord sequencer but I rarely use it for that.
Probably the best sequencers I've used are in Falcon- any type of sequencer you can imagine and with midi out, so good, plus you can script your own if the built in modules aren't enough for you.
The performer modules in Massive X are also very useful, kinda MSEGs but aren't polyphonic. Also kinda fiddly to create- many shape options but sort of hard to remember what does what.
Zebralette 3 has a great MSEGs too.
Probably the best sequencers I've used are in Falcon- any type of sequencer you can imagine and with midi out, so good, plus you can script your own if the built in modules aren't enough for you.
The performer modules in Massive X are also very useful, kinda MSEGs but aren't polyphonic. Also kinda fiddly to create- many shape options but sort of hard to remember what does what.
Zebralette 3 has a great MSEGs too.
- KVRAF
- 3764 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy
ANA 2....
No auto tune...
- KVRian
- 612 posts since 20 Mar, 2015 from Nerima, Tokyo
For external mseg fun i remember Tantra 1 was a lot of fun, havent tried 2 but it seems good.
And of course shaperbox 3 from cableguys.
And of course shaperbox 3 from cableguys.
- KVRist
- 490 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from UK
Tracktion's Horizen - two arps each assignable to any of the 10 voices,(so you can have some parts of your patch sequenced and others not) each with semitone pitch setting and up to 128 steps, plus user drawn LFOs, so MSEG LFOs with unlimited segments
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- KVRAF
- 3714 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
Thorn's Glitch Sequencer fills a great niche and is excellent. As far as Tantra, it seems lots of people seem to prefer the first version somehow.
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- KVRian
- 1454 posts since 17 Jul, 2007 from Riversland Valhalla
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- KVRAF
- 1895 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
Blue arp. End
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
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- KVRAF
- 7509 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey
Check out SynthMaster 3: Has separate Sequencer and Arpeggiator per layer
(so that you can play a chord sequence with the Seq for instance, and then arpeggiate that with the Arp)
(so that you can play a chord sequence with the Seq for instance, and then arpeggiate that with the Arp)
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- KVRian
- 1475 posts since 7 Oct, 2023 from Tokyo
No synth can really touch Wavestate Native for this; it’s more like sequences are mandatory for it. However it’s… different.
But really:
But really:
yeah that.martiu wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 9:21 am buy external sequencer and use it with the synths you have, my favorite is Audiomodern Riffer![]()
