Buss vs Bus (It's Bus)
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 26 Feb, 2018
First off, I’m from the school of thought that you can call it whatever you want as long as I can understand what you are saying. So go right ahead if you prefer Buss.
( This is how I understand it: )
Buss
I believe this refers to a hardware component also called a busbar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busbar
This is the metal component that carries the signal towards the master. The word bus in busbar comes from the latin omnibus which means exactly what you think: a thing that carries things from one end to another.
Bus
As above, from the latin omnibus which just means transporting things. We’ve been using the word bus in computing even for hardware to mean just that, any mechanism that carries data from one point to another.
As we moved into the digital domain, your DAW doesn’t have a buss/busbar, a hardware device that acts as the bus. It uses digital processes to bus data around. So it still busses, or performs the activities of a bus, but not with a metal buss.
In honor of hardware units you can keep speaking of the main transit path as a buss, or a busbar, but those words in principle just mean bus anyway. You can also call a hardware buss bar simply a bus because it represents the same idea (to bus data around). But a buss speaks to the metal in hardware acting as a transit mechanism, while a bus is any transit mechanism be it hardware or digital.
( This is how I understand it: )
Buss
I believe this refers to a hardware component also called a busbar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busbar
This is the metal component that carries the signal towards the master. The word bus in busbar comes from the latin omnibus which means exactly what you think: a thing that carries things from one end to another.
Bus
As above, from the latin omnibus which just means transporting things. We’ve been using the word bus in computing even for hardware to mean just that, any mechanism that carries data from one point to another.
As we moved into the digital domain, your DAW doesn’t have a buss/busbar, a hardware device that acts as the bus. It uses digital processes to bus data around. So it still busses, or performs the activities of a bus, but not with a metal buss.
In honor of hardware units you can keep speaking of the main transit path as a buss, or a busbar, but those words in principle just mean bus anyway. You can also call a hardware buss bar simply a bus because it represents the same idea (to bus data around). But a buss speaks to the metal in hardware acting as a transit mechanism, while a bus is any transit mechanism be it hardware or digital.
- addled muppet weed
- 111286 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
taxi!
- KVRian
- 698 posts since 7 Dec, 2009 from GWB
Sorry. If you consult a dictionary that features the etymology of the words defined, “omnibus” is from the Latin: “for all”, which is the dative plural of the noun “omnis”, meaning “all”.jochicago wrote: Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:31 pmThe word bus in busbar comes from the latin omnibus which means exactly what you think: a thing that carries things from one end to another.
- addled muppet weed
- 111286 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
people from either oldham or wigan, the say "buzz"
as in "aye, get t' ateynine buzz to ars"
"yes, get the 89 bus to ours"
as in "aye, get t' ateynine buzz to ars"
"yes, get the 89 bus to ours"
- KVRian
- 1113 posts since 20 Oct, 2018
So...pirates is who started the bus?vurt wrote: Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:40 pm people from either oldham or wigan, the say "buzz" as in "aye, get t' ateynine buzz to ars"
"yes, get the 89 bus to ours"
- addled muppet weed
- 111286 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
no, pirates who did the "arrrrr"s where southerners.
sounds different. more emphasis on the a in the northern dialect, in the southern, the r is emphasised.
sounds different. more emphasis on the a in the northern dialect, in the southern, the r is emphasised.
- addled muppet weed
- 111286 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
devon/cornwall
oo ar jim lah! pieces of eight!
that type o pirate, ye scurvy dog!
oo ar jim lah! pieces of eight!
that type o pirate, ye scurvy dog!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1030 posts since 26 Feb, 2018
I'm in no position to argue etymology of latin. I was quoting Wikipedia. However, even if you are 100% correct that that word bus didn't originally mean exactly what we think now, that's not how language influence works. See the word "google". Words don't necessarily mean today what they meant a long time ago in some other society and in a different language. We can bastardize a word and change its meaning if we want to, as long as we all do it together.cturner wrote: Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:31 pm Sorry. If you consult a dictionary that features the etymology of the words defined, “omnibus” is from the Latin: “for all”, which is the dative plural of the noun “omnis”, meaning “all”.
- KVRian
- 698 posts since 7 Dec, 2009 from GWB
I think you miss my point: “bus” isn’t a word in Latin, it’s how the noun “omnis” declines. “Bus” is the syntactic tag (“omni-bus”) that makes the noun “all” tagged as dative, or fulfilling the indirect object in a sentence.jochicago wrote: Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:49 pmEven if you are 100% correct that that word “bus” didn't originally mean exactly what we think...
“Omnibus” in the case of a motorized conveyance builds upon either “for all” in the sense of “public transportation”, or “to all” in the sense of “goes everywhere”. That’s its etymology in that specific meaning.
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- KVRAF
- 6466 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
- KVRAF
- 6209 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
HA! was gonna say, "Don't make fuss, just GET ON THE BUS!!"
i write buss generally, cos i like it.
i write buss generally, cos i like it.
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- KVRAF
- 2357 posts since 24 Nov, 2012
Luckily English isn't Latin, doesn't have the same grammar nor the same lexicon. All the words mean what everyone in that language community agrees they meancturner wrote: Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:31 pmSorry. If you consult a dictionary that features the etymology of the words defined, “omnibus” is from the Latin: “for all”, which is the dative plural of the noun “omnis”, meaning “all”.jochicago wrote: Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:31 pmThe word bus in busbar comes from the latin omnibus which means exactly what you think: a thing that carries things from one end to another.
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