Cytomic "The Scream" stomp box distortion plugin

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andy-cytomic
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Post Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:29 pm

Cytomic's next plugin "The Scream" is a very detailed model of the TS-808 Tube Screamer. It's a full model of all the discrete components in the circuit, and Boyle modelled op-amps, and all the behaviours (apart from hiss) are sounding spot on to the circuit.

First up, this level of detail currently takes around 10% average 14% peak cpu of a single core of my i7 laptop when running at 88.2/96 kHz, is this level of cpu load acceptable for everyone? Also I was thinking of pricing it at USD 29, how does that sound?

I want some help to decide which "mods" to add to it.

The regular TS-808 has these knobs:
  • Drive - distortion gain
  • Tone - basic bass / treble adjustment
  • Level - clean output level adjustment
  • On - button to switch the effect on /off (even if off will still process through the transistor buffers just like the regular pedal)
My list of "mods" thus far is:
  • Asym - diode asymmetry
  • Starve - battery starving
  • Bias - adjusting the bias level
  • Fat - lower the cutoff of the distortion high pass filter
Are there any other ones that people would like?

The plugin will also feature input / output level controls, mix, and the regular Cytomic oversampling with realtime (x1 to x16) and render (x1 to x64) options.
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billcarroll
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Post Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:14 pm

Well, I'd sure buy it at $29. Going to sleep and all I can hear is Stevie Ray Vaughan playing guitar in my head.

woodsdenis
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1645 posts since 25 Feb, 2005

Post Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:55 am

I'll buy it.
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meloco_go
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723 posts since 21 Sep, 2008

Post Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:46 am

Wow! This is great!
I have pretty powerful PC, so I gotta be OK with this figures, but maybe you could add MD mode as on Drop?
Also, will it work in stereo? IMO it would be useful to have MONO/STEREO switch as I think this may work in the mix to do somethink like sending drum submix to it, etc.

The price in nice.

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masterhiggins
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2675 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota

Post Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:52 am

Sounds interesting. Where was the price listed? I assumed it would be $99 like the other plugs. Will this be restricted to non-tape saturation models?

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andy-cytomic
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2350 posts since 3 Dec, 2008

Post Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:05 am

meloco_go wrote:Wow! This is great!
I have pretty powerful PC, so I gotta be OK with this figures, but maybe you could add MD mode as on Drop?
Also, will it work in stereo? IMO it would be useful to have MONO/STEREO switch as I think this may work in the mix to do somethink like sending drum submix to it, etc.

The price in nice.
Yep, an MD mode would be possible, which would probably be the equivalent to all the existing TS808 products I've tried!

It will always process in stereo as it's SSE2 optimised, so you get stereo for free. If you want a mono sound then you can send it identical left and right audio :tu:
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andy-cytomic
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Post Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:07 am

masterhiggins wrote:Sounds interesting. Where was the price listed? I assumed it would be $99 like the other plugs. Will this be restricted to non-tape saturation models?
USD 29. It's an Ibanez TS808 Tube Screamer stomp box emulation, so there will be only one distortion type, that of the stomp box being emulated, I'm aiming for it to be the most accurate and detailed model on the market, it's a classic and deserves a very detailed model.
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IIRs
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6741 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england

Post Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:15 am

Sounds like something I would buy without even bothering with a demo...

Daimonicon
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2548 posts since 30 Aug, 2012 from Sweden

Post Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:04 am

andy-cytomic wrote:
masterhiggins wrote:Sounds interesting. Where was the price listed? I assumed it would be $99 like the other plugs. Will this be restricted to non-tape saturation models?
USD 29. It's an Ibanez TS808 Tube Screamer stomp box emulation, so there will be only one distortion type, that of the stomp box being emulated, I'm aiming for it to be the most accurate and detailed model on the market, it's a classic and deserves a very detailed model.
Well it all depends on what you mean with an Ibanez TS808 emulation. The Maxon(original until 83)licensed Ibanez TS808 or Ibanez own version (until today).

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andy-cytomic
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Post Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:06 am

Daimonicon wrote:Well it all depends on what you mean with an Ibanez TS808 emulation. The Maxon(original until 83)licensed Ibanez TS808 or Ibanez own version (until today).
I'm going by the MP-D01201A schematic and components: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73 ... 33fdc0.jpg
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egbert101
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Post Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:35 am

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nordickvr
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Post Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:38 am

egbert101 wrote:Well done andy, price sounds very reasonable.
+1

SLiC
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8267 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:42 am

I think little pocket money priced plugs like this are a great idea. They get people to your site, they become 'customers' and you have people to mail and make offers to- it is a great way to 'introduce' people to your work. I'm in.
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andy-cytomic
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Post Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:25 am

SLiC wrote:I think little pocket money priced plugs like this are a great idea. They get people to your site, they become 'customers' and you have people to mail and make offers to- it is a great way to 'introduce' people to your work. I'm in.
Definitely! I also like being able to get new products done more quickly. The Drop was a massive undertaking and I really just want to do a few smaller, more specific little plugins before tackling another massive project like that.
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hermbot
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Post Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:17 am

First up, this level of detail currently takes around 10% average 14% peak cpu of a single core of my i7 laptop when running at 88.2/96 kHz, is this level of cpu load acceptable for everyone?
Yes, I will always vote for more CPU-intensive effects that push forward the boundaries of simulation.

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