Toneboosters Reverb 4 vs ?
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Have been trying the brand new TB reverb v4 today and wondering what people think about it?
Is it the same level as Valhalla for instance?
I must admit I don't know much about effects including reverb. Usually I just pick a factory preset of my TB v3 and maybe change the tail or the low/high-cut of the reverb a bit, that's it. I am not so sure I know what to listen for when comparing reverbs. The only obvious thing I dislike is metallic tails like with Sylenth1's built-in reverb.
The TB reverb has some nice extras, the LFO and equalizer in particular. Can I use them to emulate a shimmer reverb? If so, how?
Is it the same level as Valhalla for instance?
I must admit I don't know much about effects including reverb. Usually I just pick a factory preset of my TB v3 and maybe change the tail or the low/high-cut of the reverb a bit, that's it. I am not so sure I know what to listen for when comparing reverbs. The only obvious thing I dislike is metallic tails like with Sylenth1's built-in reverb.
The TB reverb has some nice extras, the LFO and equalizer in particular. Can I use them to emulate a shimmer reverb? If so, how?
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- KVRAF
- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
You mean the tail length? There's the Size parameter, which, as far as i understood it, affects both room size, and tail length ( i could be wrong, but, it surely affects the tail).onerob wrote:Disappointed that there's no control over modulation and that there's no explicit length control.
Regarding comparisons with other reverbs, i think that it sounds pretty nice, version 3 already sounded great. I haven't A/B'd them, but, surely didn't seem like it lost on quality. IMO, definitely in the league of the Valhalla verbs, if not better. I must admit that i'm not a big fan of those though. But, if you're looking for a clean "room" type reverb, i think that TB-Reverb surely does the job nicely. Gotta familiarize with the added options still though.
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- KVRian
- 642 posts since 28 Oct, 2014
v3 had tail length and size as separate parameters. Plus you could switch off the modulation. I suppose the T60 control is a kind of length control, though. If you raise up the nodes higher, you can get longer tails.
A quick test would seem to indicate that the same reverb algorithm is being used in both, which is understandable as it's pretty decent.
A quick test would seem to indicate that the same reverb algorithm is being used in both, which is understandable as it's pretty decent.
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- KVRian
- 642 posts since 28 Oct, 2014
I see now that the LFO section takes care of modulation. Specifically the Mix Delay parameter gives you a traditional modulation effect. It's very powerful, in its slightly quirky way.
- KVRAF
- 4961 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere
So guys, does it have a length control or it doesn't? Thinking of buying here...
The plugin has some essential controls, like gate, modulation matrix, visible eq. Something you won't find in every reverb plugin. These features are enough to buy it instantly. But how are the algorithms? How it compares to, for instance, valhalla reverbs (the only reverbs I've got (and RP-Verb)?
The plugin has some essential controls, like gate, modulation matrix, visible eq. Something you won't find in every reverb plugin. These features are enough to buy it instantly. But how are the algorithms? How it compares to, for instance, valhalla reverbs (the only reverbs I've got (and RP-Verb)?
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- 453 posts since 30 Mar, 2016
Why do you need another reverb? fluffy? Igro? Beats me. Guys who use only presets and can't tell by listening if it's any good or not, guys who don't know anything about it - even if it's working properly - yet ready to jump, wallets out, palms sweating with excitement.
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- KVRAF
- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
If it beats you why one would need another reverb, then it's maybe time to do your homework.sfxsound3 wrote:Why do you need another reverb? fluffy? Igro? Beats me.
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Distorted Horizon Distorted Horizon https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392076
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- 3882 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats
IMO it's a very good reverb. Love the modulations.
- KVRian
- 712 posts since 26 Dec, 2007 from Australia
From the product page:
> Reverberation time can be sculpted as a function of frequency
Sounds interesting. Checking out the demo now but the upgrade price kinda makes it a no-brainer with this updated feature set.
> Reverberation time can be sculpted as a function of frequency
Sounds interesting. Checking out the demo now but the upgrade price kinda makes it a no-brainer with this updated feature set.
- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
I like the new TB 4 reverb so I bought it, even though I have VVV and some others. I like that it has graphic EQ and it's a clean sounding reverb. Good for piano, vocals, etc. Sure I could have used VVV but I just like to have that graphic EQ because it's easier to visualize the result that way than just using knobs.
Win 10 -64bit, CPU i7-7700K, 32Gb, Focusrite 2i2, FL-studio 20, Studio One 4, Reason 10
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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I don't need another reverb, but since there is a bargain upgrade path, I am naturally interested in the advantages of v4. So far I am indeed content with v3 and have not updated, not sure I ever will.sfxsound3 wrote:Why do you need another reverb? fluffy? Igro? Beats me. Guys who use only presets and can't tell by listening if it's any good or not, guys who don't know anything about it - even if it's working properly - yet ready to jump, wallets out, palms sweating with excitement.
I do hear when a reverb sounds pleasant and clean, but I am indeed no specialist when it comes to comparing reverbs in detail, my criteria (pleasant, clean) are too broad and not scientific enough, so to speak.