KVR Audio

godly · Post by **godly** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:58 pm

Hey guys,

I'm thinking to send my audio from the soundcard to a bluetooth receiver and use it as in ear. Do you think this would work?
I can send youtube vids to my motu or other. So why wouldn't I be able to send audio from my daw to it?
I'm on W10.

jabe · Post by **jabe** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:42 pm

if this is for recording, perhaps 't bluetooth headphones might give you a better sound.

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:14 pm

Not sure about latency. Sure would be convenient though.

godly · Post by **godly** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:36 pm

It's for live use.
I've found some headphones bluetooth sender.
Would be interesting to have it hooked to my soundcards headphones indeed.

godly · Post by **godly** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:54 pm

Do you guys think it would be somehow possible to mix my motu OUT to a bluetooth receiver?
This way I could receive the sound wireless on my in ear headphones

Is there any way?

godly · Post by **godly** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:25 pm

I can now receive my computer output sound to the bluetooth.
But sure there must be a way to route the computer sound to the motu?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:30 pm

I think there is some leatency involved when using Bluetooth. At least there is latency up to the point where it's not lip-synced anymore, when i connect my Bluetooth speaker to my laptop (some milliseconds, but, still noticable). Maybe someone else can confirm that, and knows a bit more about it. At least, to me, it looks like nothing you would want to use for latency critical audio use.

godly · Post by **godly** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:39 pm

Ow that doesn't look good. I have a bluetooth dongle here for streaming music but can't test latency of course.
It's only for monitoring but any latency would be unwanted of course.

I could always use something as this transmitter on the headphones jack.
I already ordered it from China

Of course that would mean 2 dongles to take care of... But anyhow better than dragging a double 19 inch along for my wireless transmitters

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zNAAAOSwa ... s-l300.jpg

godly · Post by **godly** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:44 pm

I posted on my beloved Cantabile forum the same and seems older BT have latency probs.
http://community.cantabilesoftware.com/ ... ver/1303/6
Surely otherwise BT phone accessoires would be useless IMO?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:00 pm

Don't take my word for it... I only have experience with consumer speakers in combination with mobile devices. Might not be an issue with more high end equipment.

godly · Post by **godly** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:02 pm

Seems there already is a BT v5 on the market, my china dongle is v3 I see
It does have EDR:
Enhanced Data Rate (EDR) for faster data transfer. The nominal rate of EDR is about 3 Mbit/s, although the practical data transfer rate is 2.1 Mbit/s.[46] EDR uses a combination of GFSK and Phase Shift Keying modulation (PSK) with two variants, π/4-DQPSK and 8DPSK.[48] EDR can provide a lower power consumption through a reduced duty cycle.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:26 pm

godly wrote:I can send youtube vids to my motu or other. So why wouldn't I be able to send audio from my daw to it?

Because your DAW uses ASIO and not the WDM driver model perhaps? Tried Asio4All ??

Anyway, for a professional wireless solution guaranteed to be without any latency (thus analog) you'd need something like a Sennheiser SR 300 transmitter plus a EK 300 receiver.

godly · Post by **godly** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:01 am

BertKoor wrote:
godly wrote:I can send youtube vids to my motu or other. So why wouldn't I be able to send audio from my daw to it?
Because your DAW uses ASIO and not the WDM driver model perhaps? Tried Asio4All ??

Anyway, for a professional wireless solution guaranteed to be without any latency (thus analog) you'd need something like a Sennheiser SR 300 transmitter plus a EK 300 receiver.

Thx, seems like an expensive solution, just what I was trying to bypass.
Hm, never thought about aso4all indeed. Let's check.

ZapAxe · Post by **ZapAxe** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:09 pm

I've been looking for a wireless in-ear, or clip-on solution, and the only one's I can find are Bluetooth. The problem is, none of the one's I've seen come with a Bluetooth transmitter. They all seem to be primarily designed for moblie devices that already transmit Bluetooth themselves, like cell phones, pads & laptops etc.

I've used wireless headphones with either RF, or Infrared in my home studio with good success. I couldn't really detect a latency that threw me off at all.
But I don't like wearing headphones where I have something pressing on my ears, or strapping over my head. What I primarily use in my home studio is hardwired clip-ons (and sometimes ear-buds), which work great, but I'd like to be free of wires.

Funny thing is I have professional AKG Studio headphones costing about $180.00, but I prefer to use my $15.00 KSC75 Koss clip-ons...because of comfort which I can barely feel them on my ears, and they also sound better than my AKG's, go figure!

What I like about the Koss KSC75's is that I can hear the ambience (my voice) in the room, and in the phones as well. In-ear works ok, but blocks room ambience, making it harder to track vocals.

This is for my home studio use though, not live performance.

godly · Post by **godly** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:45 am

Ok I've got the stuff now and sorry to say, the delay is to long to be reasonable. Like 1 sec or so.
Pity because otherwise it works well, and cheap in ear
Maybe bluetooth v5 sender and receivers would do the job?
https://mega.nz/#!iBJBnCSI!2qegN5A-VMnV ... pFHFnEwicg

Audio in ear over bluetooth?