What's the usual structure of a House song?

Chords, scales, harmony, melody, etc.
KVRer
27 posts since 24 Jan, 2014

Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:17 am

Intro: 16 bars?
Verse 1: 64 bars?
Drop: 16 bars?

I'm new to this House thing. I come from a Hip-Hop background.
What is the most common structure of a House song?

I would be very thankful if somebody explains it to me?

KVRAF
1807 posts since 10 Feb, 2007

Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:27 am

Here you can find some deconstructed songs:

http://www.attackmagazine.com/technique/deconstructed/

Could be helpful.

KVRer

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27 posts since 24 Jan, 2014

Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:33 am

Thanks but what's the most standard structure of a House song?

Could somebody write it out for me like i did a bit in the Openings Post?

I would be very thankful

KVRian
629 posts since 19 Sep, 2012

Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:46 am

So what's the most standard construction for a hip hop song?
Instant human just add coffee

KVRist
55 posts since 24 Feb, 2013

Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:53 am

If you need a formula to make a house 'song' you are doing it wrong :roll:

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KVRAF
16257 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away

Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:40 am

manducator wrote:Here you can find some deconstructed songs:

http://www.attackmagazine.com/technique/deconstructed/

Could be helpful.

good idea trying to teach him how to fish. shame he only wants a handful of sardines :dog:

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KVRAF
16257 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away

Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:45 am

DJ Dope-Needlz wrote:Thanks but what's the most standard structure of a House song?

Could somebody write it out for me like i did a bit in the Openings Post?

I would be very thankful

1) boring intro bit
2) some more boring shit
3) drop from that other boring shit into some slightly different, but equally as boring, shit
4) breakdown- everybody needs some relief from the preceding boredom, right ?? :tu:
5) more boring stuff until the end

i understand that might be too complicated, so instead......:

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KVRAF
1807 posts since 10 Feb, 2007

Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:44 am

DJ Dope-Needlz wrote:Thanks but what's the most standard structure of a House song?
If house music would be THAT standard, they would all have the same length (if they have the same BPM).

First of all, you have t determine how long your melodic phrase is; 8 bars or 16 bars? Usually in the most energetic part of the song (just before the outro), the melody is repeated 4 times (but with automation or adding of hihats/percussion to keep in interesting). So we don't know how long the song will be in total.

Will the song have vocals? How many instruments playing? Will it contain a bridge? What's your idea of 'standard structure'? It my vary from my idea.

With so many questions, we can't give 1 answer.

Some 'general' advice (according to this page http://www.djingtips.com/skills/track-structure):

Intro – 16 bars
Instrumental chorus – 16 bars
Verse – 8 bars
Chorus – 8 bars
Verse – 8 bars
Chorus – 16 bars
Verse – 16 bars
Chorus – 16 bars
Bridge – 24 bars
Breakdown – 8 bars
Chorus – 16 bars
Instrumental chorus – 16 bars
Outro – 16 bars

As you can see, this structure deosn't mention a buildup, which is common in dance music. But you, you can't standardize everything into a template.

Now, go forth and create your own structure. Make all parts 8 , 16 or 24 (or even 32) bars and will have a track everybody can relate to.

The best advice is to analyze your favorite tracks and write down their structure. It's one of the fun things of creating.

Dirk

KVRer

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27 posts since 24 Jan, 2014

Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:07 am

Alright but Hip-Hop usually has the same structures.

All verses 16 bars.
All hooks 8 bars.

KVRer

Topic Starter

27 posts since 24 Jan, 2014

Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:12 am

So how long is a verse usually in House music.
And a hook?

KVRer

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27 posts since 24 Jan, 2014

Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:18 am

BiancaNeve wrote:So what's the most standard construction for a hip hop song?
For Hip-Hop it's usually this structure:

Intro: 8 bars
(Chorus: 8 bars)
Verse: 16 bars
Chorus: 8 bars
Verse: 16 bars
Chorus: 8 bars
(Break: 2 bars)
Verse: 16 bars
Chorus: 8 bars
(Chorus: 8 bars)
Outro: 8 bars

There could also be a Chorus first after the Intro.
Or the 8 bar Chorus could be repeated 2 times at the end of the song.
This is the most common structure of a rapsong.

KVRist
497 posts since 26 Nov, 2009

Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:18 am

1/Intro for mixing the beat ,2/ Main part (you can use any kind of structure here)-3/ breakdown ------4/repeat the main part - 5/outro


the only rule is to have a intro, so the house or trance song can be mixed by the djs... use any structure or song form, everything is a fair game

If you need to use a structure, you can use a model from pop/rap song or any random structure...
most house is just a 4bar loop for 4 minutes, anything that is not a loop is considered "songwriting"

KVRer

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27 posts since 24 Jan, 2014

Post Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:54 am

Alright, thanks for letting me know.

Think i'm gonna check some House songs that are on the charts that have singers on it.
Maybe some Avicii

KVRist
55 posts since 24 Feb, 2013

Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:41 am


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KVRAF
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