ya automation, probably easier to just automate the tempo like in Abelton, which could be useful for this problem to..multree wrote:vtx wrote:I like that thing but could never figure out how to render the effectmultree wrote:Tape Stop
TapeIt
or automation
I considered that, but for some reason it seemed that SX3 was going to need 45 minutes to pitch-shift the bounced track, and I got fed up . . .donkey tugger wrote: Aye, used to do it 'back in the ,ahem, days'. Surely it would be easier to do it by pitch-shifting though; use a temporary copy of the backing track shifted down a tone or whatever, do the singing, then shift the singing up by the the same interval using a pitch shifter that preserves length, missus. (tried it using the 'elastique' algo in FL, worked ok). Of course you'll get the 'but it makes me sound like a girl' effect without using some manner of format shifting (e.g melodyne), but that was always the case with slowing down the tape.
Sorry. You're right, and I should have responded. I'm having trouble getting SX3 to pitch-shift 8 minutes of audio in reasonable time. It said it was going to take 45 minutes to render, and I got frustrated and aborted . . .heeb wrote: I hate to repeat myself, but this tape-thing, emulated digitally, is exactly what I described in my earlier post...
Please tell me if I should describe it in an easier way...
But was this pitch shifting *with*, or *without*, lengthening/shortening the track?!?bobby yarrow wrote:I considered that, but for some reason it seemed that SX3 was going to need 45 minutes to pitch-shift the bounced track, and I got fed up . . .
I guess SX (which I do not use nor know) wants to preserve tempo. It should *not* do this, however. Your track must be allowed to become longer or shorter *like with tape*. Then record vocals, and then resample again, but in the other direction!bobby yarrow wrote:Sorry. You're right, and I should have responded. I'm having trouble getting SX3 to pitch-shift 8 minutes of audio in reasonable time. It said it was going to take 45 minutes to render, and I got frustrated and aborted . . .heeb wrote: I hate to repeat myself, but this tape-thing, emulated digitally, is exactly what I described in my earlier post...
Please tell me if I should describe it in an easier way...
Aye, that would do the trick. Always used to bug me though, doing it in the old tape way, that you would sing it differently to the slower tuned down track and it would sound quite unnatural at times when speeded up with regard to phrasing and breaths etc, if you went beyond a tone or so.heeb wrote:Maybe an example:
- You have a 5 minute project.
- You want extra vocals, but the project it too high for your voice.
- You make temp mixdown -> 5:00 minutes of audio in temp track.
- You edit/import this in CoolEdit (or something similar).
- You do "Transform" -> "Time/Pitch" -> "Stretch".
- You do Stretching Mode -> "Resample (preserves neither)".
- You say "High precision".
- You do "Transpose 1 b", which means 1 half note down (for example).
- You now suddenly have 5:18 minutes of audio, lowered a half note.
- You import this in SX again, muting all other tracks.
- You sing to it (which will be half a note lower than your project, and longer).
- You now import your singing track in CoolEdit.
- You do the same again, but this time "Transpose 1 #" (which means 1 half note up).
- You import this in SX.
- Delete temp track.
- Done!
Heeb.
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Actually, you don't have to go back to Cubase temporarily, since CoolEdit can do the multitracking also. Just pitch-up, record track & pitch-down: less of a hassle.Heeb wrote:- You now suddenly have 5:18 minutes of audio, lowered a half note.
- You import this in SX again, muting all other tracks.
- You sing to it (which will be half a note lower than your project, and longer).
- You now import your singing track in CoolEdit.
OK, that's true. However, I was never too comfortable with this multitracking thing of CoolEdit. I work much faster in Sonar.C00kie wrote:Actually, you don't have to go back to Cubase temporarily, since CoolEdit can do the multitracking also. Just pitch-up, record track & pitch-down: less of a hassle.Heeb wrote:- You now suddenly have 5:18 minutes of audio, lowered a half note.
- You import this in SX again, muting all other tracks.
- You sing to it (which will be half a note lower than your project, and longer).
- You now import your singing track in CoolEdit.
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