A stereo beatbox?
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- KVRer
- 3 posts since 30 Jul, 2002
I was wondering if Muon would consider doing a stereo SR202?
I mean it is ok and all about loading mono samples in the 202, but sometimes I need to be able to use my stereo samples.
I search the net and so far the 202 is the best beatbox by far. All I want is to do is to be able to use stereo wavs in my all time favourite vsti!
Right, as I load up me 404 with me fave drum kit, I wonder why I need to use such a beast when the 202 would do....if only it could use...
I mean it is ok and all about loading mono samples in the 202, but sometimes I need to be able to use my stereo samples.
I search the net and so far the 202 is the best beatbox by far. All I want is to do is to be able to use stereo wavs in my all time favourite vsti!
Right, as I load up me 404 with me fave drum kit, I wonder why I need to use such a beast when the 202 would do....if only it could use...
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- KVRian
- 1461 posts since 21 Nov, 2000
Check out Neutron, coming soon:-
http://www.muon-software.com/html/neutron.html
* loads stereo samples in 16,24,32 or 32-bit float
* Loads and slices loops, can auto-play at host tempo (key-on sync) or play individual slices mapped to MIDI notes
* Allows multiple velocity-layers per pad
* Same intuitive interface as SR202
* More filter types
...also, Tachyon P (playback ROMpler) permits the import of DS404 and SR202 patches. More on Tachyon P when the graphics are ready.
Kind regards
Dave
Muon Software Ltd
www.muon-software.com
http://www.muon-software.com/html/neutron.html
* loads stereo samples in 16,24,32 or 32-bit float
* Loads and slices loops, can auto-play at host tempo (key-on sync) or play individual slices mapped to MIDI notes
* Allows multiple velocity-layers per pad
* Same intuitive interface as SR202
* More filter types
...also, Tachyon P (playback ROMpler) permits the import of DS404 and SR202 patches. More on Tachyon P when the graphics are ready.
Kind regards
Dave
Muon Software Ltd
www.muon-software.com
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 3 posts since 30 Jul, 2002
Looks great Moun!
Not free but at 50 bucks, sure it great value for money.
The next bit is from the moun site with me in brackets :
Loads more file formats (16-bit, 24-bit, 32-bit float mono or stereo, WAV or AIFF)....(aah...stereo)
Loads and automatically slices loops, which then automatically play at the song tempo when triggered (what!!)
Velocity layering (in a b box?...wait...phrase sampler)
4 stereo outputs (outstanding!)
Improved filters (how?!)
Later matey,
Lick.
Not free but at 50 bucks, sure it great value for money.
The next bit is from the moun site with me in brackets :
Loads more file formats (16-bit, 24-bit, 32-bit float mono or stereo, WAV or AIFF)....(aah...stereo)
Loads and automatically slices loops, which then automatically play at the song tempo when triggered (what!!)
Velocity layering (in a b box?...wait...phrase sampler)
4 stereo outputs (outstanding!)
Improved filters (how?!)
Later matey,
Lick.
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- KVRian
- 1461 posts since 21 Nov, 2000
When you load in a loop, you will have a menu option to "slice" up the loop into individual beats. Once this is done, Neutron can assign each beat of the loop to a MIDI note, and you can play the beats back yourself (using an exported MIDI file containing the groove information, which you can edit in your sequencer) OR you can simply assign the whole loop to just one key and Neutron will automatically sync the loop to the beat of your tune.Loads and automatically slices loops, which then automatically play at the song tempo when triggered (what!!)
This is pretty important for folks that like to use acoustic drums. You can set up velocity zones within a pad so that you can play different samples depending on how hard the key is hit.Velocity layering (in a b box?...wait...phrase sampler)
SR202 only has lowpass and highpass filters. Neutron will have the same filter capabilities as DS404 (10 types). The preview graphics don't show this, by the way, and nor do they show the additional menus etc. either at this time.Improved filters (how?!)
Watch this space for more Neutron news.
HTH
Dave
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- KVRAF
- 4143 posts since 7 Sep, 2001 from Melbourne, Australia
I'm still so exciting by the Neutron.
I'm so happy ... doing the Neutron dance!
Oh I'm just burning ... doing the Neutron dance!
I can finally file away those vague ideas I had about purchasing the DR-008 and get the machine I already love with the power I want.
Woohoo!

I'm so happy ... doing the Neutron dance!
Oh I'm just burning ... doing the Neutron dance!
I can finally file away those vague ideas I had about purchasing the DR-008 and get the machine I already love with the power I want.
Woohoo!
Happiness is the hidden behind the obvious.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 3 posts since 30 Jul, 2002
lmao Caleb!
Moun....so basically we will be getting a 202 with much of the capabilities of the 404 but without having to setup zones and patches etc..
I like the recycle a like functions but do you get to fine tune the points within Neutron as you do with recycle? Sometimes even recycle misses and I have to manually enter the right data.
Does Neutron use the same technology as recycle when you use a loop assigned to one key or is it timestretching?
Nit picking really.
You have one customer here!
Lick.
ps ooh...nearly forgot....can you 'drag n drop' a sample into the Neutron?
Moun....so basically we will be getting a 202 with much of the capabilities of the 404 but without having to setup zones and patches etc..
I like the recycle a like functions but do you get to fine tune the points within Neutron as you do with recycle? Sometimes even recycle misses and I have to manually enter the right data.
Does Neutron use the same technology as recycle when you use a loop assigned to one key or is it timestretching?
Nit picking really.
You have one customer here!
Lick.
ps ooh...nearly forgot....can you 'drag n drop' a sample into the Neutron?
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- KVRian
- 1461 posts since 21 Nov, 2000
Yes, you'll be able to fine tune slice markers, delete them, add new ones etc.I like the recycle a like functions but do you get to fine tune the points within Neutron as you do with recycle? Sometimes even recycle misses and I have to manually enter the right data.
Neutron will simply play the slices back with the appropriate timing (in sync mode) or when you trigger them from the keyboard (in mapped mode). You can, if you want to, tune the slices up or down so they fit the new tempo a bit better, but there is definately no time-stretching or anything like that built in.Does Neutron use the same technology as recycle when you use a loop assigned to one key or is it timestretching?
Regards
Dave
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- KVRist
- 52 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from here, there and everywhere
Hi Dave
Can you use different filters and filter settings on each slice? This would be cool
Can you route slices to a different channel so that we can add different effects in the host to different slices? Please say yes
Alex
Can you use different filters and filter settings on each slice? This would be cool
Can you route slices to a different channel so that we can add different effects in the host to different slices? Please say yes
Alex
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- KVRian
- 1461 posts since 21 Nov, 2000
Unfortunately, no. It's more like Dr. Rex in Reason than Phatmatik Pro, if you see what I mean.
Regards
Dave
Regards
Dave
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atomic_(no)afro atomic_(no)afro https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=5043
- KVRian
- 622 posts since 18 Dec, 2002
Hey Alex,
Neutron looks sleek & sexy, but I was wondering if it's going to have tempo-stretched reverse for each hit. Phatmatik Pro does reverse, but it can't stretch each hit so it swells just right when trying to get that "on the fly" reverse crash or snare sound. I'm still waiting for a company to come out with a beatslicer VSTi that does reversal right for us breakz/D&B producers.
L8RZ
Neutron looks sleek & sexy, but I was wondering if it's going to have tempo-stretched reverse for each hit. Phatmatik Pro does reverse, but it can't stretch each hit so it swells just right when trying to get that "on the fly" reverse crash or snare sound. I'm still waiting for a company to come out with a beatslicer VSTi that does reversal right for us breakz/D&B producers.
L8RZ
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- KVRist
- 52 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from here, there and everywhere
Don't ask me - ask Daveatomic_afro wrote:Hey Alex,
Neutron looks sleek & sexy, but I was wondering if it's going to have tempo-stretched reverse for each hit. Phatmatik Pro does reverse, but it can't stretch each hit so it swells just right when trying to get that "on the fly" reverse crash or snare sound. I'm still waiting for a company to come out with a beatslicer VSTi that does reversal right for us breakz/D&B producers.
L8RZ
