KVR Audio

Funkybot · Post by **Funkybot** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:20 pm

I've been playing with using multiple instances of the Kjaerhus GCO-1 at some extreme settings, not so much for analog warmth in itself, but for a nice analog like drive with extreme compression. Blockfish actually isn't too bad at the job either and will sometimes make it into the chain. And saturated driver is another one that gets used.

Why have I been playing with this? I was just reading an interview with Rob Schnieder (Elephant 6 producer) where he said the reason Neutral Milk Hotel's "In The Aeroplane Over the Sea" sounds the way it does is because they were overdriving the pre's, and the compressors, and just chaining this stuff backwards and forwards to get everything nice and fuzzy without having to resort to distortion pedals and such, and I love the way that record sounds. You'd be surprised how close a vibe you can get to that which just a few instances of GCO-1.

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:21 pm

Creamware's "Softclip" plugin, it provides the classical tube saturation (not distortion!) that works very well.
I use it after every native VSTi.
Obviously U must have the Creamware Scope system...
Othervise the only other valid (for me) choice is the bounce trought an external tube preamp, tube EQ or wheels analog tape set to minimal/neutral action.
I find any other average native solution not so convincing.
TC, UAD and maybe (near the limit!) PSP are also good.
But UAD and PSP are also dynamic compressors, that could be sometimes a tiresome thing...

Gargoyle · Post by **Gargoyle** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:21 pm

Kind of ironic that there's no buzz about your work, Meffy... but perhaps it's good that we can keep them quiet.

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:31 pm

Exit Zero wrote:No specifics on using convolution to do this? Anybody done this?

Im not sure there is much to it really. The voxengo analog flux suite has several plugins that can assist with that. I believe the "Tape Bus" and "Insert" use convolution of real hardware. If you just have any convolution processor, you would just load up an impulse and yer on yer way.

Convolution is not necessarily the only way to go. There are many plugins that can warm up yer recordings out there. What do you currently own? mebbe we can help you use what you already have. Some very good ones have been mentioned already.

tk421 · Post by **tk421** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:32 pm

Stupid American Pig wrote:and I prefer

Izotope Ozone 3
Izotope Trash

Those are my 2 favorites. Specifically the Tape Saturation distortion with Trash. On the non-software side, I am going to experiment with recording to video tape.

taylor · Post by **taylor** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:33 pm

tritone digital color tone pro. unbelievable.

convolution based.

Exit Zero wrote:No specifics on using convolution to do this? Anybody done this?

rogerperrin · Post by **rogerperrin** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:51 pm

I have some Crakz of some of Meffy's older stuff, and I have to admit.

putte · Post by **putte** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:58 pm

.put both hydratone and colortone pro (oh, mac only) on a track and the digitality leaves ..

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:04 pm

Roger: You're missing out on the new algorithms though.

Oh, putte, don't kid us. We know your secret. You add

=^_^=

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:19 pm

I suppose this would be a great place to hint that I'm actually developing a plugin just for these "warmth" purposes.

It's called 'RetroBand' and it does the thing with a new method. It doesn't sound automatically stuffy, muffled and farty like many people are used to when hearing "tube emulations" and similar things. I created it because to be honest, the state of digital warmth has found me wanting.

It doesn't actually model any particular piece of analog gear, but more like several aspects of the general equation of warmth. I call what it does 'signal intermodulation', because all new plugins need a nice enigmatic buzzword to go with them.

Look for annoucements within the next few months. I still have to sort out things like (simplistic and unintrusive) copy protection and payment. Oh and a few bugs, too.

In the meantime there's warmifier, hydratone, crunchessor, tapebus, AIPL tonewarm (old, but still valid DX plug). To name a few.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:54 pm

i like to use voxengo tubeamp that free one to warm signals up

it works wonderfully if you dont max it out

RonC

loopdon · Post by **loopdon** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:54 am

i heard waves q-clone can be pretty helpful (esp. the neve preset(s)) there are additional presets to be downloaded here:

http://www.waves.com/content.asp?id=1583

Three new preset libraries consisting of more than 200 precision EQ settings of well-known brand analog equalizers:

EQ4: 146 presets (3 mb)

http://www.waves.com/objects/zip/EQ4.zip

EQ5: 26 presets (693 kb)

http://www.waves.com/objects/zip/EQ5.zip

EQ6: 52 presets (1 mb)

http://www.waves.com/objects/zip/EQ6.zip

toine6 · Post by **toine6** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:17 am

Did Meffy say something?

scam_artist · Post by **scam_artist** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:33 am

can't wait for ColorTone Pro (PC version) when it eventually comes... ColorTone Free is a little too subtle for me

putte · Post by **putte** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:47 am

.. yes, like meffy said: never forget to add some

to the sound ..

You're preferred method for adding analog warmth