Any ASR10 users out there?

[chickeneps]

Can the ASRX load the ASR10 patches fully? I recall something about the architecture being slightly different with the number of wavesamples or something. The ASRX was released to go up against the Akai MPCs from what I can gather. And can the ASRX internal effects be used in realtime from the external audio inputs like the ASR10?

Yes, the ASR-X effects can be used that way, yes.

The ASR-X does a technically great job at loading ASR-10 stuff in with one MAJOR flaw. The ASR-X has the same envelopes as the ASR-10, but omits the first level stage, the initial level.

In other words, with the ASR-10 you set the inital level of the sound, then the time to get to the next level, what the next level is, and on and on.

With the ASR-X, the initial level is always 0 (assumed).

Given an initial ASR-10 level of 99, a 30 unit time frame to the next level, and the next level being 99 too, results in an immediate sounding of the note. And the way the ASR-10 is set up, this type of envelope setting is common - it is the default.

So when the ASR-X converts this sort of thing, the initial sounding of the note is removed, because it starts with 0 (no sound), takes 30 units of time to get to the next level which is 100%.

So all sounds programmed this way have a slow attack, instead of an immediate one.

Compounding this, the ASR-X doesn't have a in-depth interface so you can't tweak it even if you wanted to. So you're stuck.

That's a big reason we developed ASR-X Tools, an editor for the ASR-X that allows editing the ASR-X in detail, stuff the interface can't do.

In fact, the very genesis of Translator can be seen in ASR-X Tools - we put in a convertor that intelligently converts ASR-10 stuff to ASR-X, compensating for the envelope issue. The little dialog and function we put into ASR-X Tool was called "Translator", from which we got the name of our current program.

[chickeneps]

I've now started converting my CD-Roms into Kontakt (2.1), not always with great succes, but I understand that the envelopes are very difficult to convert.

With 2.1 we made a function that detects multi-stage envelopes like Ensoniq's and makes an AHDSR if it can. Other we just make a Flex-Envelope.

If you find any that suck, "Kontakt" me and I'll take a look at any file you submit. (I'm the programmer.) nisupport@chickensys.com

I wonder if this is legal : I have an old but very good EPS-CDRom from B.E.A. (Belgian Ensoniq Association - ceased to exist in 1996) which I'd like to convert to Kontakt and make available for free.

Did they make them publically available, or were the charged? Were they made available to just BEA members (paid)?

Literally, it's not "legal", but GENERALLY when you are talking about companys that don't exist, anything that was "given out for free" seems OK to post. It's when there was some paid "initiation" that "dangling copyrights" seem needed to observe.

But let there be no confusion - the 1-2 of law is that if it's not yours, you can't post it without permission. In practice there's some wiggle room, but it's always at some sort of risk.

[BERFAB]

Did you have a ESQ or SQ?

I had a Mirage, ESQ-1, ASR-10 Rack, and a KS-32.

Traded the Mirage in for the ASR, and the ESQ-1 for the KS-32. The ESQ-1 was something in its day. It was my first sequencer, and in addition to the internal soundbank, I used it to trigger a Korg DW-6000 (still have it), and an old Roland drum machine (can't recall the model).

Garth-
I appreciate the step-by-step on conversion, but I'm afraid I just don't have the right equipment to make it worthwhile. Since they're all your sounds anyway, I assume you could probably sell me a disk with the proper files for Kontakt. If I could prove my original purchase could you possibly give me an upgrade price? Please PM me if this is possible--I'd be interested in knowing my options.

Thanks
-B

[chickeneps]

Traded the Mirage in for the ASR, and the ESQ-1 for the KS-32. The ESQ-1 was something in its day. It was my first sequencer, and in addition to the internal soundbank, I used it to trigger a Korg DW-6000 (still have it), and an old Roland drum machine (can't recall the model).

Cool, hey we had about the same setup in a way. I used an ESQ-1 for sequencing, which I thought was the best. I triggered a DW-8000, and DX-7, and a Mirage.

I appreciate the step-by-step on conversion, but I'm afraid I just don't have the right equipment to make it worthwhile. Since they're all your sounds anyway, I assume you could probably sell me a disk with the proper files for Kontakt. If I could prove my original purchase could you possibly give me an upgrade price? Please PM me if this is possible--I'd be interested in knowing my options.

OK, will do!

[bro. miles]

Miles is just mad because we called him a moron over the phone. .

That's a complete lie. He didn't call me names, he just delivered non-working product. If you want the whole story just look for the threads "Chicken Translator Sucks" and the equally amusing "chicken translator doesn't suck".

Have a nice day Garth, and grow up already. If you can't take criticism don't throw mud.