A philosophical note

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To be honest I'm quite happy with my standing in the overall list- I'm happy I didn't come last! :) What with a huge crashey-style bug that I couldn't fix (and, for the record - that was the fault of one of the libraries I was using - and I still haven't fixed it) I accept that mine was not the most attractive in there-
this, however, is not about that- I just wanted to get that lot out of the way, before someone accuses me of "sour grapes", which, for the record, I am not in possession of- congratulations to the actual winners- the users.
But WHAT ungrateful winners they are.

Here's my beef:
I wrote a plugin that was f**king difficult to code, took a few months to do, and took me back to square one with my CFS (look it up)-
to be honest, I wrote this plugin for the developers- because anyone who codes for free (given that programming is hard work) deserves respect, regardless of whether that work is taken seriously or their plugin ends up working correctly for a given platform (and with the absolute proliferation of hosts it is extremely difficult to assure this).
But some of the users - GOD.
"Why doesn't this play AVI's?"
"Because of all the reasons listed in the documentation-"
"Yeah, but I want it to play AVI's"
"Well then you write one that breaks international law, then-"
"Geez man, don't be so stingy, it's not like this isn't CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM! Nobodies going to use it if it doesn't SUPPORT AVI's"
f**k!!!


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In my opinion, VST users are used to getting high quality work for free - which is okay - but forget that programmers get paid major money in the workplace to do what they do - not because they're special (though they may well be), because it's, as mentioned above, -f**king hard work-. Much harder than writing a song or sitting down at a piano, or even playing violin.

I'm as guilty of this as anyone- have I sent more than ten thank-you notes out for the hundreds of free plugins sitting in my plugins directory? No, not yet. At least the benefit of doing this contest has been that I am now aware of what a minefield developing for VST is.

Quite frankly, even if there was $10000 in the competition prize pool, it wouldn't pay for half the amount of hours that any one of the the developers have put in in real-word terms.
So be grateful- share, proliferate, but come on - be grateful.

Thanks to Tuz for putting together the competition, to all the people who entered, and to all the users who are genuinely grateful.
Peace out-
Cheers,
M@

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+1 ;)
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so when will it play avi's?
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest

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Yeah, people mostly suck. At any rate, I like videovst, Matt. I think it is one of those plugins that won't strike people as exciting until they come across a situation where they might use it. Mpeg support is fine, especially given that the plugin's utility is mostly for sync needs in videoless hosts rather than fidelity, so converting from other video formats should be trivial anyway.

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shamann wrote:Yeah, people mostly suck. At any rate, I like videovst, Matt. I think it is one of those plugins that won't strike people as exciting until they come across a situation where they might use it. Mpeg support is fine, especially given that the plugin's utility is mostly for sync needs in videoless hosts rather than fidelity, so converting from other video formats should be trivial anyway.
ditto
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest

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what was philosophical about that? just sounded like a rant against people who take your work for granted.

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bernhardtjeff wrote:what was philosophical about that? just sounded like a rant against people who take your work for granted.
well yes, but we're tryin to be constructive. devs have a tendency to break down due to the stress (don't make me name names)
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest

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I'll give ya some philosophy ...

This comp. is just like capitalism, only 1 winner, the rest left by the wayside :hihi:

As a cure, I suggest you all read this thread (http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=156161) and get on board :tu:

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shamann wrote:Yeah, people mostly suck. At any rate, I like videovst, Matt. I think it is one of those plugins that won't strike people as exciting until they come across a situation where they might use it. Mpeg support is fine, especially given that the plugin's utility is mostly for sync needs in videoless hosts rather than fidelity, so converting from other video formats should be trivial anyway.
Cheers shamann - needed to hear that from *somebody*!
m@t

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hehe. shamann knows how excitement over video vst. and as a screenshot i posted a soccer themed thingy. galatasaray (my team) had just lost an away game against the brits' liverpool. renamed a galatasaray video "galatasaray will beat liverpool in hell (that's what the call the stadium).. i love the video vst. not to say that i don't love others. i really had a bad time trying to vote. it was just too hard.
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tuz wrote:galatasaray (my team) had just lost an away game against the brits' liverpool. renamed a galatasaray video "galatasaray will beat liverpool in hell (that's what the call the stadium)..
I think I shouldn't mention that I live in Eindhoven these days (and my team is PSV).. :hihi:

:wink:

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I happen to live in that exact same city.
Boeren! ;-)
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i think i did a gig there once.a very fuzzy tour. :oops:

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brambos wrote:
tuz wrote:galatasaray (my team) had just lost an away game against the brits' liverpool. renamed a galatasaray video "galatasaray will beat liverpool in hell (that's what the call the stadium)..
I think I shouldn't mention that I live in Eindhoven these days (and my team is PSV).. :hihi:

:wink:
:x

galatasaray are sucky these days. no money. plus authorities don't let us play in our regular stadium which is notorious for being scary. anyway, no excuse. well deserved win. (both times)

p.s. (i hate you!) :hihi:
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Video VST has got 5 points from me BTW.

Hannes
Maybe doing jokes without the use of smilies ...

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