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cyanogen · Post by **cyanogen** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:14 pm

"It's part of a trilogy, a musical trilogy I'm working on in D minor which is the saddest of all keys, I find. People weep instantly when they hear it, and I don't know why."

Dewdman42 · Post by **Dewdman42** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:17 pm

jdtrbn · Post by **jdtrbn** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:25 pm

jdtrbn wrote:Any major chord with #9.

tattiemannie wrote:YEAH! I agree ...fkn 9ths!!!! ... Its not the chord I have a prob with, its just eso many bloody tracks which claim to be 'chill', 'new age', 'ambient', 'relaxation' etc seem to kick off with a soft pad, playing a 9th .... and almost invariably move onto a chord 2 and a half tones higher, leaving the '9th' note hanging in there .... so becoming a 6th.

Maybe there's no misunderstanding, but notice that there's a difference between 9 and #9, the latter being a half step higher.

Optomadic · Post by **Optomadic** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:24 pm

Inversions of flattened 9ths sound really demented at times.. Remind me of suspenseful moments in those old silent films

.

for example

F Gb A C Eb +inversion > A C Eb F Gb -inversion > F A C Eb Gb

Gb G Bb Db E +inversion > Bb Db E Gb G -inversion > Gb Bb Db E G

G B D F Ab +inversion > B D F G Ab -inversion > G Ab B D F

and so on...

xtp · Post by **xtp** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:37 am

cyanogen wrote:"It's part of a trilogy, a musical trilogy I'm working on in D minor which is the saddest of all keys, I find. People weep instantly when they hear it, and I don't know why."

I have always thought F minor is far more melancholy than D minor.

I have seen people mention the d minor thing before on this forum, where does this claim come from. Have studies been done on the nature of the effects of chords.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:12 am

Optomadic wrote:Inversions of flattened 9ths sound really demented at times.. Remind me of suspenseful moments in those old silent films .

for example

F Gb A C Eb +inversion > A C Eb F Gb -inversion > F A C Eb Gb

Common knowledge to usually not use those inversions as they contain b9 or b2 intervals,

Optomadic · Post by **Optomadic** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:28 am

Usually

jsaras · Post by **jsaras** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:05 am

The one chord that I can't use is very simple; pick a bass note and play the flat 3rd and a flat ninth. The overtones actually begin to buzz in a very nasty way!

martian · Post by **martian** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:05 am

in isolation there may be a few chords i dislike but in context and i think i can like anything. so with me it all depends what chord came before.

pinkjimiphoton · Post by **pinkjimiphoton** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:30 am

xtp wrote:any chord in particular.

I was looking thru my chord book the other day and came across a chord I just wont use. The Maj7.

I never use it, and I really dislike the sound of it and always have ever since I first heard it.

zappa said CM7 was the devil's chord...

Lost_Highway · Post by **Lost_Highway** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:10 pm

xtp wrote:
cyanogen wrote:"It's part of a trilogy, a musical trilogy I'm working on in D minor which is the saddest of all keys, I find. People weep instantly when they hear it, and I don't know why."
I have always thought F minor is far more melancholy than D minor.

I have seen people mention the d minor thing before on this forum, where does this claim come from. Have studies been done on the nature of the effects of chords.

It's about a piece that's sort of a cross between Mozart and Bach, a Mach piece really. Just simple lines intertwining. Lick my love pump?

If that still means nothing to you, I suggest you go watch This Is Spinal Tap.

xtp · Post by **xtp** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:48 am

pinkjimiphoton wrote: zappa said CM7 was the devil's chord...

, that explains it then.

Frank

Lost_Highway wrote: It's about a piece that's sort of a cross between Mozart and Bach, a Mach piece really. Just simple lines intertwining. Lick my love pump?

If that still means nothing to you, I suggest you go watch This Is Spinal Tap.

your right, I have no idea what you are talking about, what is "This Is Spinal Tap"

Download SOphist · Post by **Download SOphist** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:46 pm

not to chords, only voicings

JerGoertz · Post by **JerGoertz** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:05 pm

Why is D minor said to be the saddest of all scales?

Shouldn't the root note be completely irrelevant, and only the intervals matter?

xtp · Post by **xtp** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:18 pm

JerGoertz wrote:Why is D minor said to be the saddest of all scales?

Shouldn't the root note be completely irrelevant, and only the intervals matter?

I dont understand about the d minor thing, but to my ears chords and keys and intervals sound quite different from each other.

I seldom use d minor so i have no personal impression of that key.

Do any of you have a major, or minor aversion to