Very well said, I have exactly the same thoughts.AllenPOPO wrote:most of us stuck by jorgen when the first wave of dissenters were rising, and now I look like the ass.
New updates v2. - Coming 15th January: energyXT 2.5
- KVRAF
- 25012 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
robenestobenz wrote: 18/08/2008? I wonder what happened.
posted 25-11-2006Jorgen wrote:
This forum will still be hidden from other users after 1-dec. I will rename this forum to "alpha" forum, and create a new empty forum called "beta" forum. So there will still be alpha testing
That was his last post in that forum.
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- KVRist
- 483 posts since 7 Aug, 2005 from Germany
I was just hinting that writing flaming letters to behringer won't help and some of the stated ideas - whilst out of fun - are quite destructiveAllenPOPO wrote:these are the responses _I_ don't get.gamble wrote:some og you guys simply taking it overboard
- KVRAF
- 25012 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
robenestobenz wrote:While I'd never defend his attitude, to be fair to him Jens was for a long time one of the people most familiar with EnergyXT 1.x as well as being one of the most active in helping out and sharing that knowledge.grymmjack wrote:tomg is not a troll. he's a helpful guy with a lot of stuff to give back. he's probably done way more for anyone than jens has, who i've not seen do anything besides ruffle feathers and get into confrontations with others about.
thank you - I wouldn't want anyone to defend my attitude - but thanks a lot for the reality check.
anyway: I shouldn't even post here anymore - I'm sitting in an internet café right now where I actually just went to quickly check my mails, etc. - I cancelled the contract for my internet-connection at home since the internet is not healthly thing, at least for me (and many of you others as well, I suppose), and my time and my life is much too precious to be wasted that way.
So what am I doing here?
I'm arguing to defend myself against a bunch of guys who should get a life ffs - just like in the worst days of my internet-addiction.
Good-bye.
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- KVRist
- 148 posts since 25 Nov, 2003 from Northern IL, USA
Gamble wrote:
Jens wrote:
Sorry if what I wrote has caused you enough grief to quit this forum. No harm or flames intended, but I think you can tell by the content of my (earlier) post I want what all other people in this forum want: Either fix XT2.5 or refund my money.
Jens, I have to commend you though... you have proved to us what we already thought was happening here. Apparently Jorgen has bailed out of the project or had very, very little input for at least more than a year, from what I can tell... this is sad, and just as equally irresponsible.
I would like to remain hopeful that Uli could rescue this DAW and hire his own programmers and deliver the goods. It seems to be the only thing that is fair or right at this point in the game.
Like I say, I will wait... two weeks for a response... and if nothing happens, I will send a letter to Uli Behringer, and go from there.
Gamble, rest assured, if its one thing I will NOT do is flame Behringer for this. I will however bring it to Uli's attention that the lack of support and developer interaction is a serious issue that needs to be addressed.I was just hinting that writing flaming letters to behringer won't help and some of the stated ideas - whilst out of fun - are quite destructive Wink
Jens wrote:
Jens,So what am I doing here?
I'm arguing to defend myself against a bunch of guys who should get a life ffs - just like in the worst days of my internet-addiction. Help
Good-bye.
Sorry if what I wrote has caused you enough grief to quit this forum. No harm or flames intended, but I think you can tell by the content of my (earlier) post I want what all other people in this forum want: Either fix XT2.5 or refund my money.
Jens, I have to commend you though... you have proved to us what we already thought was happening here. Apparently Jorgen has bailed out of the project or had very, very little input for at least more than a year, from what I can tell... this is sad, and just as equally irresponsible.
I would like to remain hopeful that Uli could rescue this DAW and hire his own programmers and deliver the goods. It seems to be the only thing that is fair or right at this point in the game.
Like I say, I will wait... two weeks for a response... and if nothing happens, I will send a letter to Uli Behringer, and go from there.
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- KVRist
- 337 posts since 16 Jan, 2004
Wow, no more internet for Jens means the downfall of the gay porn industry.jens wrote:I cancelled the contract for my internet-connection at home since the internet is not healthly thing, at least for me (and many of you others as well, I suppose), and my time and my life is much too precious to be wasted that way.
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- KVRian
- 889 posts since 10 Jul, 2004
5 months without any updates when there's still so much that needs fixing and doing.(the 14th november beta was the 18th of august one renamed)
5 months with no developer feedback (just lies)
5 months hoping for a major release to come only to find ourselfs at the same point we were in august.
only an idiot can be happy of this situation.
5 months with no developer feedback (just lies)
5 months hoping for a major release to come only to find ourselfs at the same point we were in august.
only an idiot can be happy of this situation.
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- KVRAF
- 8519 posts since 7 Apr, 2003
are you kidding me? you and sickle have battled for as long as i've been here. i'm pretty sure there are others (i cant think of any off the top of my head) that you've had run ins with, but the posts i've read by you seem to be more often than not confrontational in nature, and antagonistic. maybe i just dont see all the good samaritan stuff you do, or maybe it's a language barrier. you've said yourself that you sometimes struggle with english if i recall.jens wrote:sorry, but then you must be blind or something - I'm never 'ruffling feathers' without a reason - I don't enjoy quarelling - but I enjoy helping others, answering questions, etc. and my posts are proof of this. Please be so fair as to check the validity of your perception.grymmjack wrote:tomg is not a troll. he's a helpful guy with a lot of stuff to give back. he's probably done way more for anyone than jens has, who i've not seen do anything besides ruffle feathers and get into confrontations with others about.
Tomg has never given any user support on this forum as I have - I was always there to answer users' questions - not tomg.
Your post is a slap in my face and in the face of truth.
anyway man, i'm sticking up for tomg because he's not a troll. you're the one throwing the accusations around, if you cant take a dose of your own medicine, that's not my problem.
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- KVRAF
- 8519 posts since 7 Apr, 2003
darkstar, nicfit, asseca, and subz are the ext heros imo, not jens. sorry i disagree. maybe i missed all the helping he's done? it doesn't matter though. no point in continuing this..robenestobenz wrote:While I'd never defend his attitude, to be fair to him Jens was for a long time one of the people most familiar with EnergyXT 1.x as well as being one of the most active in helping out and sharing that knowledge.grymmjack wrote:tomg is not a troll. he's a helpful guy with a lot of stuff to give back. he's probably done way more for anyone than jens has, who i've not seen do anything besides ruffle feathers and get into confrontations with others about.
18/08/2008? I wonder what happened.
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
+1 grymm
sorry jens. hes right. and a post can never be a slap in the face of anything, just simply a post. he didnt harass you or put you down at all. and he is one of the most generous people ive ever met.
RonC
sorry jens. hes right. and a post can never be a slap in the face of anything, just simply a post. he didnt harass you or put you down at all. and he is one of the most generous people ive ever met.
RonC
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- KVRAF
- 8519 posts since 7 Apr, 2003
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- KVRAF
- 8519 posts since 7 Apr, 2003
pdadda wrote:Wow, no more internet for Jens means the downfall of the gay porn industry.jens wrote:I cancelled the contract for my internet-connection at home since the internet is not healthly thing, at least for me (and many of you others as well, I suppose), and my time and my life is much too precious to be wasted that way.
good riddance.
what an arrogant twat.since the internet is not healthly thing, at least for me (and many of you others as well
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- KVRian
- 631 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
hm...I'll give them the coming weekend for fixing all this, or i'll send them a serious email like others proposed giving a reference to this Thread ... which imho shows the immense disappointment in this forum ... it was different once with 1.X beta testing, and i consider it hard to believe that a simple buyout and a NDA may throw it all off the cliff... and even an NDA should not prevent them from giving status reports or delay announcements ... that wouldn't be non-disclosure, it'd be called marketing...
and i see a lot of bad marketing with XT2 since last year...
and i see a lot of bad marketing with XT2 since last year...
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