in the hall of the mountain king...similar concept in pop?

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Mike Oldfield, Tubular Bells (the original version)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubular_Bells

:)
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Not quite sure if this is what you're looking for - I understood you to mean songs with just one theme/melody, i.e. not a traditional pop verse/chorus/bridge thingy.

This is basically the same central little ditty repeated ad infinitum with the vocals and build up adding some variation.



Same here, though less build up, more an iteration through variations on the central theme:



Just the one central melody and beats:


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Hmm... How about "Paradise City" by Guns N' Roses? Starts out fairly slowly and then picks up speed throughout until its pretty fast by the end.

And would the intro to Metallica's "Enter Sandman" be something similar to what you want? If so, In Flames' "The Jester Race" is another one that has an intro that gradually gets added to over the first 30 seconds or so.

Cradle of Filth's "Swansong for a Raven" has a slow intro that is rapidly sped up a few seconds into the song.

I think I have heard at least one metal song that repeats a riff that gradually increases in speed throughout the entire song (not just the intro), but I can't remember it/them at the moment. I almost want to say something by MegaDeth, but I don't think that's right.

EDIT: Not metal, but there's a song called "Iyansa" by a band named Faun. It definitely builds up slowly over the course of the song, gradually getting faster and louder while repeating the same phrase. The song "calls on the Afro-Brasilian goddess of wind and builds into a frenzy," according to http://www.rambles.net/faun_renaiss05.html. It does get pretty intense at the end there, much like the "Mountain King."
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Portuguese traditional Lisbon Fados. They got 1 theme that's repeated over and over and over and over. Sometimes a song is just singing the same theme with four different lyrics.

Some examples:


(Rosa cor de rosa - Ana Moura)


(A moda das tranças Pretas)
Play fair and square!

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There was a concept album titled "Hall of the Mountain King" by progressive metal band Savatage released in 1987.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_of_th ... ng_(album)

... though it's probably not what you are looking for ;)

Peace,
Andy.

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Although a little more varied in the melody sense, I think "My Sweet Lord" from George Harrison may clasify. And "Bridge Over Troubled Water", from Simon and Garfunkel definitely classifies as a similar concept.
Fernando (FMR)

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tomg wrote:Hawkwind - Hall of the Mountain Grill
thanks! good example!!

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someone called simon wrote:how about "something in the air" by Thunderclap Newman (sp?). No tempo change i think but simple melody modulating up. except for the honky tonk piano break... speaking of which, can you ever imagine something so out-of-left-field making into a pop song in today's formulaic world?

yeah!! great example!! :tu: thanks!

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5.1 wrote:Mike Oldfield, Tubular Bells (the original version)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubular_Bells

:)


this version is perfectly what i was looking for!

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sjm wrote:
Just the one central melody and beats:

:ud: of course!!

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Max Headroom wrote:Hmm... How about "Paradise City" by Guns N' Roses? Starts out fairly slowly and then picks up speed throughout until its pretty fast by the end.

And would the intro to Metallica's "Enter Sandman" be something similar to what you want? If so, In Flames' "The Jester Race" is another one that has an intro that gradually gets added to over the first 30 seconds or so.

Cradle of Filth's "Swansong for a Raven" has a slow intro that is rapidly sped up a few seconds into the song.

I think I have heard at least one metal song that repeats a riff that gradually increases in speed throughout the entire song (not just the intro), but I can't remember it/them at the moment. I almost want to say something by MegaDeth, but I don't think that's right.

EDIT: Not metal, but there's a song called "Iyansa" by a band named Faun. It definitely builds up slowly over the course of the song, gradually getting faster and louder while repeating the same phrase. The song "calls on the Afro-Brasilian goddess of wind and builds into a frenzy," according to http://www.rambles.net/faun_renaiss05.html. It does get pretty intense at the end there, much like the "Mountain King."
I didn't think of tempo as a main criteria. I thought of a piece which
only hast only meoldy throughout the song.Not like A part,B ..A again...
only one line that does it..maybe modulated or changing colours by instrumentation.
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someone called simon wrote:how about "something in the air" by Thunderclap Newman (sp?). No tempo change i think but simple melody modulating up. except for the honky tonk piano break... speaking of which, can you ever imagine something so out-of-left-field making into a pop song in today's formulaic world?

Here's some trivia for you: Andy "Thunderclap" Newman was the piano player...and the bass player was some guy named.....Bijou Drains....aka Peter Townsend....I wonder what happened to him?

Keith
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Musicologo wrote:Portuguese traditional Lisbon Fados. They got 1 theme that's repeated over and over and over and over. Sometimes a song is just singing the same theme with four different lyrics.

Some examples:


(Rosa cor de rosa - Ana Moura)


(A moda das tranças Pretas)
cool! thanks!

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Odieman wrote:
someone called simon wrote:how about "something in the air" by Thunderclap Newman (sp?). No tempo change i think but simple melody modulating up. except for the honky tonk piano break... speaking of which, can you ever imagine something so out-of-left-field making into a pop song in today's formulaic world?

Here's some trivia for you: Andy "Thunderclap" Newman was the piano player...and the bass player was some guy named.....Bijou Drains....aka Peter Townsend....I wonder what happened to him?

Keith
:shock:

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fmr wrote:Although a little more varied in the melody sense, I think "My Sweet Lord" from George Harrison may clasify. And "Bridge Over Troubled Water", from Simon and Garfunkel definitely classifies as a similar concept.
So true! ..never noticed that!

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