Amplitube 3 - screenshot (from NAMM)

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Wow so much stuff going on here. I'll do a few by memory...

redshift: It isn't an exact model. It is inspired by, yes, what mainly-guitar-based swell effect wouldn't be? Depth is the volume of the swell in dB, SENS is the sensitivity as in how sensitive it is to new input (lower for only louder strikes), TIME is the length of the swell cycle, and BPM sync syncs the swell time to host tempo

Guitargeek.com is indeed a VERY useful tool. I wish they had effect and amp settings there too. Still very useful, though. There's an effects database site that is useful to see the different iterations of effects over time, and links to how much you'll get porked (financially of course ) if you wanted to buy them: http://www.effectsdatabase.com/

Suggestions are always great, and do remember that we did add things with a Fender update.

The presets for the Boston sound weren't meant to be Rockman-like because he didn't use one on that album, but I've emailed the constructive feedback to the author of the presets anyway. Though "weak and noisy" might be the way some folks DO label the Rockman

electro: I don't have a direct comparison but we do optimize RAM usage regularly and I know it is easier to show improvement on the CPU side but they are DEFINITELY very sensitive to the RAM issue. I'll know more as we hit release (I hope!)

Hink: I still have one guitar pick that says "Daddy's" on it. I think I mentioned this long ago - my daughter was just learning to read and when she saw that it said "Daddy's" on it, that pick became the one she would not steal because she thought it was clearly marked that it was MY pick I miss that store. I know I could use the phone or internet but it just ain't the same! I did get a quote on more of those picks, I need to order a bunch. Boston had so many great places like that (I know you're not talking about Boston in your case) - if I was playing drums then as much as I do now I'd be less bored when hanging with my drummer buddies at Jack's Drum Shop too

Enough nostalgia, I'm sure I missed some things here.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Ah, I didn't miss much but the Marshall stuff. Any suggestions are good and the trend here seems to be "non-flexi" amps as is happening for AmpliTube 3 and if we do or re-do Marshalls they will be that way and of course we wouldn't mind having the official stamp on it but we've done pretty well so far haven't we?

[Hink]

Jack's Drum Shop use to be the cheapest place to buy strings back in the day, I don't go in town much now and the daddy's I worked at was in Nashua which naturally made it very popular. Back in the 80s I hated daddy's, when I worked there I realised I still hated daddy's. But they do have tons of used gear.

I went to EU Wurlitzer when I was in town (starting in about 1974 when they were on Newbury street), Music Worksop in NH (stores in Nashua and Salem) and Dom's music on Moody street in Waltham back in the days of old. At the time A-smith was not back together and Joe Perry was struggling, Dom had his Explorer for sale for 400 bux...what a pile of crap, it would of needed a complete rewire and then some.

[metalifuxx]

...At the time A-smith was not back together and Joe Perry was struggling, Dom had his Explorer for sale for 400 bux...what a pile of crap, it would of needed a complete rewire and then some.

I bet if you bought it, Slash would have bought from you for a pretty penny years later. Slash got a hold of one of Joe's Les Pauls through a guy, which Joe pawned when he needed smack money. Apparently that is Slash's favorite guitar in his collection. Depending on Slash's habit at the time, you probabaly could have made money back, when Geffen told him to stop selling his eqipment for smack money, and Geffen would buy the guitar back from you at top dollar.

[susiwong]

There is a site, I forget the name (but someone will post it) that tells of many artists rigs with diagrams etc. If you believe the amps to be fairly accurate in their modeling then that's all you need.

Very true, that's the best way to go about emulating a certain tone - make an "educated guess" based on your ears and maybe a bit of research, set up a similar chain and tweak it until it sounds right for your own playing and your guitar.
Amplitube 3's huge collection of models will make that approach pretty easy and satisfying ...
And don't get lost in the tiny details - a rough idea like e.g. "EL34 amp, overdrive pedal, delay, 412" will certainly be all that's needed - you'll learn the fine differences between Plexis, JMPs, 800s and so on over time as long as you're interested - far more important is getting familiar with the big scheme of things and the rest will follow later.
Beats blind usage of presets any day in my book.
Ymmv,
susiwong

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Yes, trying from scatch is indeed also very satisfying. I purposely didn't look, though I know I'm definitely not playing the same type of guitar he did, at any info on Duane Eddy but while testing things out I was doing a "Trembler" type of sound. I knew where I could get it amongst the amps and effects we had. Of course I picked one that's likely easy to guess about gear and pretty simple but it was still fun. I ended up solely in Fender-land for one version and only switched out to the Silvertone cab for the second version anyway but still had lots of fun.

[redshift factor]

It isn't an exact model. It is inspired by, yes, what mainly-guitar-based swell effect wouldn't be? Depth is the volume of the swell in dB, SENS is the sensitivity as in how sensitive it is to new input (lower for only louder strikes), TIME is the length of the swell cycle, and BPM sync syncs the swell time to host tempo

Yeah, I know it isn't meant to be an exact replica. To me, it looks just like one of the many DIY Slow Gear clones. I guess even in the virtual world Boss Slow Gears are super rare!

I was just confused by the BPM SYNC and started wondering if it was like the Slow Gear at all, or if it was merely a traditional LFO tremolo with an adjustable attack.

So if I have it straight, the TIME slider corresponds to ATTACK, and DEPTH is an added parameter not found on the Slow Gear that sets the initial attenuation depth, and the BPM SYNC sets the duration of the Swell from start to finish (TIME) to a musical division, such as 8th, 4th, etc?

[Amberience]

OR120 ... when oh when will you be mine?

[Hink]

andy, I'm gonna be a AT dude

[ynot]

Ah, I didn't miss much but the Marshall stuff. Any suggestions are good and the trend here seems to be "non-flexi" amps as is happening for AmpliTube 3 and if we do or re-do Marshalls they will be that way and of course we wouldn't mind having the official stamp on it but we've done pretty well so far haven't we?

Not sure I follow you.Do you mean "non-flexi" as in plexi w/ no gain knob or amps w/out mixing & matching of components as in AT Fender/SVX/AT3?I wouldn't mind losing the mix & match part if more of the amps were modeled.The main reason I liked the mix & match components was because if you guys didn't model a particular amp you at least supplied the tools for us to recreate some of them.If you do end up doing an AT Marshall I'd buy it in a heartbeat though.

[revalverman]

Or an Amplitube British? Say a Hiwatt DR-103, Vox AC15 & AC30 (I know you already did the latter, but I'm just including it because), Marshall JTM45, VBA400, 200W Major, 1959 JMP, 1974 JMP, 2203 JCM800, 1992 JCM800 Bass, 2555 Silver Jubilee, 2100 JCM900, JMP-1, Orange Thunderverb, Laney AOR, Laney LA100BL, Laney GH100L, and throw in a few vintage Marshall pedals (Shredmaster, Bluesbreaker, etc.) and some of the newer Vox pedals, and you'd have quite a product.

[declan32001]

Or an Amplitube British? Say a Hiwatt DR-103, Vox AC15 & AC30 (I know you already did the latter, but I'm just including it because), Marshall JTM45, VBA400, 200W Major, 1959 JMP, 1974 JMP, 2203 JCM800, 1992 JCM800 Bass, 2555 Silver Jubilee, 2100 JCM900, JMP-1, Orange Thunderverb, Laney AOR, Laney LA100BL, Laney GH100L, and throw in a few vintage Marshall pedals (Shredmaster, Bluesbreaker, etc.) and some of the newer Vox pedals, and you'd have quite a product.

[blueman]

IK Multimedia makes it a point to pick out the most sought after classic gear for what they model in AmpliTube. The CH-1 is not in that category. It is simply not in the same company as the CE-1, CE-2, CS9, or SCF by any stretch.

You can be sure that IK is not going to be modeling the CH-1. And if they chose to invest their time and resources into modeling it instead one of the myriad other truly in demand pedals to choose from, then yes, it would absolutely be malpractice. But it's not going to happen.

I found guitargeek's analysis of the CH-1 quite fitting...

"Billed as a 'Contemporary Chorus', this Boss unit seems to be either hated or loved by chorus freaks out there. While it doesn't have nearly as much warm personality as the older Boss CE-1 or CE-2 chorus units, it's still a pretty decent pedal that provides a very light, transparent, and watery sounding chorus. I'm sure 80's cover bands, R n' B types, and sensitive new agers will dig the pristine sounds of the CH-1. It really does seem to perform best when played through bright amps and clean guitars. The addition of an EQ knob racks up a few bonus points for tonal manipulation and should appeal to the all-around gigger. Because of its ultra smooth sound, we've seen the CH-1 in many keyboardists rigs over the years. This goes without saying, but running the CH-2 in stereo is a true treat and should impress even the most jaded gear snobs."

Btw, Zakk Wylde uses this pedal (if that's worth anything to anyone). It certainly has its uses in the real world. It wouldn't be a total tragedy to see (and hear) it modeled even though it's not a "must have" on the list of coveted chorus pedals

[redshift factor]

I was looking at Guitargeeks's page on the Boss CE-2:

"A really great analog stomper from the late 70s and early 80s. Two simple knobs control your rate and depth to achieve a very rich full-bodied chorus. At gentle settings the CE-2 adds a touch of shimmer without altering your precious tone, while extreme settings create a pretty decent vibrato-like effect. Overall this is one of better chorus units out there and has turned the CE-2 into one of the more sought after Boss pedals on the used market. Another cool thing about this pedal is it actually gives you slight volume boost when the CE-2 is engaged which fills out your sound even more! Word on the street is that the Japanese CE-2 models sound a little better than the Tawainese counterparts so do a little checking on the bottom label before buying."

Props to them for even noting the difference between Japanese vs Tawainese models. They really are Guitar Geeks!

However, they have the Ibanez CS9 mislabeled as an SC-9. So -1 on that.

[ynot]

Or an Amplitube British? Say a Hiwatt DR-103, Vox AC15 & AC30 (I know you already did the latter, but I'm just including it because), Marshall JTM45, VBA400, 200W Major, 1959 JMP, 1974 JMP, 2203 JCM800, 1992 JCM800 Bass, 2555 Silver Jubilee, 2100 JCM900, JMP-1, Orange Thunderverb, Laney AOR, Laney LA100BL, Laney GH100L, and throw in a few vintage Marshall pedals (Shredmaster, Bluesbreaker, etc.) and some of the newer Vox pedals, and you'd have quite a product.

I'd be happy. But lets not forget the 6100.