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brambos wrote:
ericj23 wrote: But running windows 7 means there is more than one or two apps for that
Running windows 7 on a touch based PC means the user experience is going to suck compared to the iPad's. It's as simple as that. It's a desktop OS (i.e. it has mouse and keyboard control in all its genes), not an OS with a UI designed from the ground up around the multitouch paradigm.

But everybody should buy what suits their desires.

You didn't watch the videos... :hihi:

Eee PC Touch Demo Video
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tomg wrote:
brambos wrote:
ericj23 wrote: But running windows 7 means there is more than one or two apps for that
Running windows 7 on a touch based PC means the user experience is going to suck compared to the iPad's. It's as simple as that. It's a desktop OS (i.e. it has mouse and keyboard control in all its genes), not an OS with a UI designed from the ground up around the multitouch paradigm.

But everybody should buy what suits their desires.

You didn't watch the videos... :hihi:

Eee PC Touch Demo Video
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Graphically very impressive, but in actual use it seems rather clumsy to me. But it's hard to tell how it would actually work from these 1-second video snippets, I'd have to use one.

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brambos wrote:
tomg wrote:
brambos wrote:
ericj23 wrote: But running windows 7 means there is more than one or two apps for that
Running windows 7 on a touch based PC means the user experience is going to suck compared to the iPad's. It's as simple as that. It's a desktop OS (i.e. it has mouse and keyboard control in all its genes), not an OS with a UI designed from the ground up around the multitouch paradigm.

But everybody should buy what suits their desires.

You didn't watch the videos... :hihi:

Eee PC Touch Demo Video
=related
Graphically very impressive, but in actual use it seems rather clumsy to me. But it's hard to tell how it would actually work from these 1-second video snippets, I'd have to use one.
This is just a guy showing win7 without the fancy stuff.

Lenovo

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And don't forget that Win7 is built from the ground up to support tablet operation including handwriting and voice recognition.

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tomg wrote:And don't forget that Win7 is built from the ground up to support tablet operation including handwriting and voice recognition.
Source please.

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Best use for the ipad Ive seen so far :

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/06/ipad_blend/

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masstronaut wrote:The iPod wasn't the first portable media player, and maybe never the 'best', but Apple packaged the idea so that people could access and understand it. Even then it took quite a while for many to catch on. What does it do?
It comes down to how much help one wants with computing. I hate iTunes and consider it the downside of all Apple portables. I want to drag and drop files onto and from players in Win Explorer, not have to use bloated software that is meant to sell music.
Say the iPad doesn't have a purpose, but look at the stuff that's being done with it already. It's only been available a few days. It's not the first tablet format multitouch portable computer but it's been packaged in such a way as to make it accessible and understandable. These things are of no use whatsoever unless people actually want to use them.¥, regardless of technical hairsplitting and dubious business practices.
And this is really what it's about. All of the hype about the iPad completely ignores whether or not someone actually cares about what it can do. I find it completely boring and useless in concept and function. But I'm also someone who loathes touch screens in general except when checking out at Home Depot. No hardware keyboard? No interest. And it's too big and heavy to replace a smartphone, but completely incapable of doing what even a modest size laptop can do beyond viewing content.
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey

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eduardo_b wrote:
masstronaut wrote:The iPod wasn't the first portable media player, and maybe never the 'best', but Apple packaged the idea so that people could access and understand it. Even then it took quite a while for many to catch on. What does it do?
It comes down to how much help one wants with computing. I hate iTunes and consider it the downside of all Apple portables. I want to drag and drop files onto and from players in Win Explorer, not have to use bloated software that is meant to sell music.
Say the iPad doesn't have a purpose, but look at the stuff that's being done with it already. It's only been available a few days. It's not the first tablet format multitouch portable computer but it's been packaged in such a way as to make it accessible and understandable. These things are of no use whatsoever unless people actually want to use them.¥, regardless of technical hairsplitting and dubious business practices.
And this is really what it's about. All of the hype about the iPad completely ignores whether or not someone actually cares about what it can do. I find it completely boring and useless in concept and function. But I'm also someone who loathes touch screens in general except when checking out at Home Depot. No hardware keyboard? No interest. And it's too big and heavy to replace a smartphone, but completely incapable of doing what even a modest size laptop can do beyond viewing content.
So it's not for you. But don't assume that we all have the same needs/wishes.

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brambos wrote:So it's not for you. But don't assume that we all have the same needs/wishes.
I haven't. But it's also not a "game changer" anymore than PDAs were. Smartphones, oth, were and are game changers.
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey

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eduardo_b wrote:
brambos wrote:So it's not for you. But don't assume that we all have the same needs/wishes.
I haven't. But it's also not a "game changer" anymore than PDAs were. Smartphones, oth, were and are game changers.
If millions of people buy one, then the iPad certainly is a gamechanger - seeing how tablets have never been a commercial success by any stretch of the word.

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eduardo_b wrote:
masstronaut wrote:The iPod wasn't the first portable media player, and maybe never the 'best', but Apple packaged the idea so that people could access and understand it. Even then it took quite a while for many to catch on. What does it do?
It comes down to how much help one wants with computing. I hate iTunes and consider it the downside of all Apple portables. I want to drag and drop files onto and from players in Win Explorer, not have to use bloated software that is meant to sell music.
It's not about you.

Obviously that stuff does appeal to people. Many people do want technology to be made accessible and understandable.
Say the iPad doesn't have a purpose, but look at the stuff that's being done with it already. It's only been available a few days. It's not the first tablet format multitouch portable computer but it's been packaged in such a way as to make it accessible and understandable. These things are of no use whatsoever unless people actually want to use them.¥, regardless of technical hairsplitting and dubious business practices.
eduardo_b wrote:And this is really what it's about. All of the hype about the iPad completely ignores whether or not someone actually cares about what it can do. I find it completely boring and useless in concept and function. But I'm also someone who loathes touch screens in general except when checking out at Home Depot. No hardware keyboard? No interest. And it's too big and heavy to replace a smartphone, but completely incapable of doing what even a modest size laptop can do beyond viewing content.
Well again, it's not about you.

And why do you care about 'hype'? What does that matter to you?

Obviously there are people who do care anyway.
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brambos wrote:So it's not for you. But don't assume that we all have the same needs/wishes.
Yes, exactly right. Simple isn't it, or so you'd think

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Some people seem to think the whole world is about their individual consumer responses and nothing else.

Says a lot really.

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masstronaut wrote:And why do you care about 'hype'? What does that matter to you?
It's the Appleholic holier than thou, church of Apple crap. :hihi:
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
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I'm not the biggest fan of marketing bullshit or mindless consumer culture but it's hardly surprising that a company should try and sell it's own products.

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