Doood! That's fantastic! Problem, what kind of microphone should I use to record the brain storm? Should I start a new thread? Do you think they'd be interested over at gearslutz? They know microphones over there.faun2500 wrote:Don't worry, this is just a brain-storm. In fact, a brain-storm might make the perfect sound so I would get your sampler out now!Sampleconstruct wrote:Shit, haven't thought about that - back to thinking then...ghettosynth wrote:Dude, first, that's way too noisy, and second, how am I supposed to mix down my EP with my computer unplugged?Sampleconstruct wrote:Just try the mute button on your misxing desk. If you don't have a desk or a controller with a mute button just rip out the power cable of your computer.
What's the best plugin for 4:33
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 16846 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 1924 posts since 24 Apr, 2010
I think this direction will lead to either medical or military equipment. Beware the miltary route though, there's a lot of useless stuff at the surplus depots. Though if you have the technical skills you could modify.
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- KVRAF
- 2802 posts since 31 Aug, 2011
I know exactly what you mean.ghettosynth wrote:Oh sure, anyone can fake it. I can simply create an empty .wav file four minutes and thirty three seconds in length, but, that is NOT a performance that I would be proud of. I am an artist my friend and I take my work VERY seriously.
A true artist would never do that.
A true artist would take the best 2-Osc synth money can buy, set both Oscs to Square and then offset the wave of Osc2 by 50%.
Only this way its truly synthesized silence...
(lol)
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- KVRian
- 1116 posts since 6 Jul, 2009
Can you tell which plug-in kitty is using? I especially like it at 2:28.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 16846 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Wow, after that, maybe I should just chuck my instruments in the trash. I'm not sure that I can match the focus, dedication, and frankly, sheer genius on display in that video.KBSoundSmith wrote:Can you tell which plug-in kitty is using? I especially like it at 2:28.
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- KVRAF
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- 16846 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
You are SO on to something there. I'll mention you in the liner notes, after my mom, sorry.ENV1 wrote:I know exactly what you mean.ghettosynth wrote:Oh sure, anyone can fake it. I can simply create an empty .wav file four minutes and thirty three seconds in length, but, that is NOT a performance that I would be proud of. I am an artist my friend and I take my work VERY seriously.
A true artist would never do that.
A true artist would take the best 2-Osc synth money can buy, set both Oscs to Square and then offset the wave of Osc2 by 50%.
Only this way its truly synthesized silence...
(lol)
- KVRAF
- 8088 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
I once heard... or rather, didn't... an extended mix of 4:33 that lasted for 273 seconds.
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- KVRian
- 677 posts since 8 Apr, 2012
ghettosynth wrote:I'm working on an EP of 4:33 remixes and I'm having a hard time getting the feel just right. You can get wobble bass all day long for most synths but sound designers seem to ignore the more subtle genres. Can anyone recommend a plugin that would be good for this?
i don't want to be the killjoy, but if you would know what was behind John Cage's conception of this (non-)piece of music, a realistic answer to your question could be given.
Cage had the idea to this piece after he visited an anechoic room. This was a catalysmic experience for him which - facing a "total" silence - made him realise, how many noises are going on all the time, without you realize them.
While most people think that 4'33 is about "silence", it's just the opposite:
The piece in fact is not the part of the non playing piano.
The "acoustic" piece - as intended by Cage -is all the noises going on, while the pianist is not playing.
So, a "mute-button" etc. is absolutely the wrong way to do a remix of 4:33.
The right way would be to go in "concert" with this piece and position the mikros in a way that they capture all the details that are going on in the ambience.
I'm sure, with that material, if you would normalize your recording, you could in fact do some amazing remixes:
Sound of the breathing of the people, coughing, noises produced by the people moving on their chairs, moving their feet; and all the noises that come from outside of the concert room.
(at the debut performance it was raining outside; so in that performance the noises of the rain played the main part of the piece).
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- KVRAF
- 2644 posts since 17 Apr, 2004
Assuming you want to record the live performance thereof, something like
http://www.tweakbench.com/field might be the best bet. You could play with the different ambient noises to get different recordings of performances in different places.
I agree with the post above - muting defeats the point of the piece.
http://www.tweakbench.com/field might be the best bet. You could play with the different ambient noises to get different recordings of performances in different places.
I agree with the post above - muting defeats the point of the piece.
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- KVRian
- 662 posts since 10 Jan, 2008
way too digital, if you ask me. someone mentioned vintage silence, and that's the route to take nowadays. I mean, adding a true! vintage analog non-sounding filter with a steampunk like permament mute button that cannot be unlocked gives a real feeling of what I'd call an artistic silence creation process. and for true variation I'd even go that far to chop the whole track it into slices of 3s (that's 91 independent slices, boy) and rearrange them in a completely different order!ENV1 wrote:A true artist would take the best 2-Osc synth money can buy, set both Oscs to Square and then offset the wave of Osc2 by 50%.
Only this way its truly synthesized silence...
remember, he is really serious about that.
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- KVRAF
- 2658 posts since 13 Mar, 2004
Didn't know this, interesting.Arrested Developer wrote: i don't want to be the killjoy, but if you would know what was behind John Cage's conception of this (non-)piece of music, a realistic answer to your question could be given.
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- KVRAF
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