omnisphere! criky damn this synth is just no words awesome.

[AstralExistence]

ill remember that. but i still have two more easy payments to pay it off. i actually just found out about the 3 easy payment with no credit check. it is the best thing since sliced bread. makes it easy for people that don't have much money to buy high quality gear so when omni is pad off, i may just consider it, but why? surely nobody is going to notice the musical difference/element space that trilian provides over omnisphere.

Really, and who does that?

i know i should keep it to myself but i feel others should know about it. i only discovered this last week and ive been writing off and on since 2003 and if i kept it to myself that would be selfish. american music supply does this. as long as an item is under 500 usd there is no credit check. none. you simply pay 1 down payment (1/3 the price) and they send you the item as if you payed in full the remaining two payments are taken from your bank account automatically 1 month from the day you paid for the item. i know sweetwater does this but im not sure if they do a credit check. ams does not.

[AstralExistence]

If I were a pro musician I might buy such an expensive plugin as well. The good thing about plugins like Omnisphere is that they sound great out of the box, so they are ideal for musicians who need to get things done quickly and in a professional quality. Hobbyists often spend way too much time programming patches on mediocre synths...

The difference is like with basses: you can buy a 300 dollar bass made in an Asian factory. You tweak the controls of your combo to get a good sound out of it, and it does the trick. But when you get a 3000 dollar Music Man bass, you plug it in and have that huge sound you know from countless records and it sends a shiver down your spine

this is so true. for years when i owned reason, i would try so hard to make a real beautiful sound. don't get me wrong, im a good sound designer. i made a sound bank in the past for a synth and people were really impressed. its not the sound design that is so hard for me, (non hybrid analog) its the time it takes me to do it. i realize i would much rather be writing music and lack the patience.

nobody gives a f if a person uses a preset. making your own sounds is an inner pride that often provokes more harm then help. because if you don't know what your doing or in my case don't have the patience to do it, then the sounds you make will never be half as good as a somebody that loves sound design and puts there heart, soul, and patience into it and your production will suffer because of it.

its true, professionals are the ones that often use presets writing quickly and effectively. its often the amateurs that try too hard to make something unique that they never finish, take forever to finish, or write a song that is not as good they think it is/want it to be. this is the truth and also my own self discovery as you also have seem to discovered.

[Vectorman]

Yep, AMS has been doing the payment plan thing for a long time. I remember taking advantage of it twenty years ago when I was assembling my first computer-based recording setup.

I don't know why people have such a bone to pick with Omnisphere. It contains the bulk of content from several Spectrasonics sample libraries that collectively cost at least $2G when they came out in the '90s, plus a ton of classic synth multisamples and various other sampled content and pairs it with a very good synth engine for leveraging all that content with a variety of filters and effects, a ton of LFO's and a ton of complex envelopes. It's not the be-all-end-all and doesn't blow everything else out of the water (anymore than its conceptual ancestors like the JD-800 did), but it's a synth with a lot to offer if the sum of its parts appeals to you. And it's certainly cheaper than what I spent in the '90s for those Spectrasonics libraries and the Kurzweil to load them into. People who started out recording music in the last decade have no concept of the days when the price of admission was REALLY high.

[Vectorman]

The difference is like with basses: you can buy a 300 dollar bass made in an Asian factory. You tweak the controls of your combo to get a good sound out of it, and it does the trick. But when you get a 3000 dollar Music Man bass, you plug it in and have that huge sound you know from countless records and it sends a shiver down your spine

I got my last Music Man Bongo for $750. It pays to shop the talkbass classifieds.

[fluffy_little_something]

The difference is like with basses: you can buy a 300 dollar bass made in an Asian factory. You tweak the controls of your combo to get a good sound out of it, and it does the trick. But when you get a 3000 dollar Music Man bass, you plug it in and have that huge sound you know from countless records and it sends a shiver down your spine

I got my last Music Man Bongo for $750. It pays to shop the talkbass classifieds.

That's cheap. In Europe the Stingray is roughly between 1800 and 3000 euros, i.e. 2500 and 4000 dollars or so

[fluffy_little_something]

this is so true. for years when i owned reason, i would try so hard to make a real beautiful sound. don't get me wrong, im a good sound designer. i made a sound bank in the past for a synth and people were really impressed. its not the sound design that is so hard for me, (non hybrid analog) its the time it takes me to do it. i realize i would much rather be writing music and lack the patience.

nobody gives a f if a person uses a preset. making your own sounds is an inner pride that often provokes more harm then help. because if you don't know what your doing or in my case don't have the patience to do it, then the sounds you make will never be half as good as a somebody that loves sound design and puts there heart, soul, and patience into it and your production will suffer because of it.

its true, professionals are the ones that often use presets writing quickly and effectively. its often the amateurs that try too hard to make something unique that they never finish, take forever to finish, or write a song that is not as good they think it is/want it to be. this is the truth and also my own self discovery as you also have seem to discovered.

Yes, we sometimes want to reinvent the wheel Maybe we think and hope that our sounds will make the difference...
But I must also say that many synths kind of force me to make my own patches because the factory patches are for genres I don't like, while the usable standard patches that have been used in modern music for decades are missing. Seems that developers also have that idea that they need to make spectacular factory patches...

[ghettosynth]

Well that's the thing. The Trilian sounds load in Omnisphere and then you can make patches with soundsources from both. The Trilian synth sounds are the best I've monosynth sounds I've heard in software.

Actually, I think that Trilian is the product that highlights what Eric Persing does really well, and what, in my opinion, is not his firm's strength.

[Bombadil]

Well, I'll throw my 2 farthings in:

Last year, after Logic X came out, and my IK Multimedia instruments became obsolete for that platform, notwithstanding various workarounds, I decided to invest in some software. Now, I already had Addictive Drums w jazz sticks and brushes, Retro, and various midi-packs, as well as BFD2. There, sorted for drums. I wanted some good pads and synth sounds to replace the IKM instruments, so I chose Omnisphere after reading many reviews. I find it to be an excellent addition and an inspirational program. There are, what, 5000 patches? I doubt that I'll ever use more than 200, but if I have those 200 patches and they knock the ball out of the park, I am happy. There is so much I won't use, but I don't begrudge that. I looked into NI Komplete and, after buying Omnisphere, the VSL SE libraries, Forest Kingdom II and Era: Medieval Legends, felt that much of its content would either be redundant or useless to me. I am primarily a guitarist, though I have some rudimentary keyboard skills. Programming makes my eyes glaze over, and kills my inspiration. I just want to be able to find a patch that I can work around with guitars and vocals and come up with new ideas, and Omnisphere does that. I doubt I'll ever buy Trillian, because I can play a real bass, too.

Not a fanboi, but I find it suits my needs, and I still love playing with it since I bought it last September.

[himalaya]

Omnisphere is a collection of sounds from VST Instruments and Hardware, something i do on a daily basis. On their website also listed is EVERY synth and VST they used to create Omnisphere.

and....on their website is a list of all the synthesis features in Omnisphere. Did you miss that? This makes it a full synth that does not need to rely on those samples (which are excellent for the most part, with unique sounds aplenty - good luck sourcing and sampling stuff like the Optigan, Chamberlin Strings, Orchestron and similar !).


http://www.spectrasonics.net/products/o ... atures.php

SYNTHESIS FEATURES
Oscillators can be sample-based or synth-based
Up to 10 oscillators per patch with new Harmonia™ feature
Flex-Mod™ modulation system allows powerful modular-style routing
Dual Layer architecture
High-definition streaming engine
Variable DSP Oscillator Waveshapes
Sophisticated Unison Detuning
Variable Analog Feel
Modulatable Hard Sync
Granular Synthesis
Innovative Chaos Envelopes
Polyphonic Timbre Shifting
Polyphonic Timbre Crushing
Polyphonic Waveshaper
Polyphonic Ring Modulation
Polyphonic Glide
FM Oscillators
Dual Filter architecture per Layer
Create filter combinations in series or parallel
Arrange and blend more than 17 Filter algorithms
Fully modulatable FX racks
Alternate tuning scales supported
6 full-featured LFOs per patch
8 Advanced Multi-breakpoint looping Envelopes per patch
Unique Dual Envelope interface - Simple ADSR-style or Advanced Graphic-style
Sampled soundsources can be processed with synthesis features!

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

I don't know why people have such a bone to pick with Omnisphere. It contains the bulk of content from several Spectrasonics sample libraries that collectively cost at least $2G when they came out in the '90s, plus a ton of classic synth multisamples and various other sampled content and pairs it with a very good synth engine for leveraging all that content with a variety of filters and effects, a ton of LFO's and a ton of complex envelopes. It's not the be-all-end-all and doesn't blow everything else out of the water (anymore than its conceptual ancestors like the JD-800 did), but it's a synth with a lot to offer if the sum of its parts appeals to you. And it's certainly cheaper than what I spent in the '90s for those Spectrasonics libraries and the Kurzweil to load them into. People who started out recording music in the last decade have no concept of the days when the price of admission was REALLY high.

[Krakatau]

I don't know why people have such a bone to pick with Omnisphere. It contains the bulk of content from several Spectrasonics sample libraries that collectively cost at least $2G when they came out in the '90s, plus a ton of classic synth multisamples and various other sampled content and pairs it with a very good synth engine for leveraging all that content with a variety of filters and effects, a ton of LFO's and a ton of complex envelopes. It's not the be-all-end-all and doesn't blow everything else out of the water (anymore than its conceptual ancestors like the JD-800 did), but it's a synth with a lot to offer if the sum of its parts appeals to you. And it's certainly cheaper than what I spent in the '90s for those Spectrasonics libraries and the Kurzweil to load them into. People who started out recording music in the last decade have no concept of the days when the price of admission was REALLY high.

+ once more :

...i just dig something important about Omnisphere here !

[declan32001]

I do not know if Omnisphere's overrated, but it does appear to be criminal here to own it & really love it. But if it is overrated, it's the most reviewed synth in history (it is) so if there's something you don't know about it you're kind of a troll by definition if you're shooting down someone's bluebirds of happiness for them using it.

I mean, if Omnisphere is your 5th favorite synth does it really doom you to some sort of sonic oblivion? If it does you could've done far worse, and you know... Cheer Up!

I do want to say I greatly respect g.s.'s last post, that took effort and I agree with 90% of what he said and I don't really think anyone's a greater Spectrasonics fiend than I, but...

Trilian is not in Omnisphere and I rarely use it in there (synth basses, sure) so why is there some sort of inherent need to bring it up?

Trilian is my favorite software of all-time. I love using it within Omnisphere & with RMX (any midi file would work, but a "simplify" button is really the point, & then I replace the drums) and it's the closest thing to having a band I've yet found.

But Omnisphere is something I think worthy of buying. It's that simple.

There's about 5-6 great synths (in varying price-ranges) that people don't trash like they do Omnisphere - and I do find it weird.

[BBFG#]

Not sure if it's over-rated, but it's definitely over-priced.
It's not criminal to love it, but it is perhaps a little twisted to speak of it in only terms of a fetish worship as it often is.
It would be so nice to open any Spectrasonic thread and see a discussion of programming and application rather than the emotional appeals of justification and renunciation of all else.
Two things keep me from buying Spectrasonics more than anything else.
1. Price (as its FMV is not relative to the market).
2. What seems to come with it in ownership.

[samsam]

Omnisphere:OP says it's as good as a CS2X...

[Uncle E]

I do not know if Omnisphere's overrated, but it does appear to be criminal here to own it & really love it. But if it is overrated, it's the most reviewed synth in history

I'm curious if it's a similar situation with Nexus. If so, that's probably a good indication of a bias towards and against preset-based instruments.