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fantasyvn · Post by **fantasyvn** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:46 am

May I ask this question?

There are so many loops packages sold on many stores. However, I'm still confused how can you make a song based on them.

I can understand when I buy a construction kit, with parts available like Verse/Chorus/Bridge.

But many other packages only contain very short riffs with synth, piano, guitar. They may only last a few bars. In this case, what should you do to make a song?

Thank you

humpo72 · Post by **humpo72** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:39 am

just use them as building blocks for tracks. try to be as creative as you can instead of just using a single loop. you can cut them up and re-arrange them, cut out individual hits ect. load them up into something like Kontakt, and the possibilities are endless.

XorXisT · Post by **XorXisT** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:16 pm

fantasyvn wrote:May I ask this question?

There are so many loops packages sold on many stores. However, I'm still confused how can you make a song based on them.

I can understand when I buy a construction kit, with parts available like Verse/Chorus/Bridge.

But many other packages only contain very short riffs with synth, piano, guitar. They may only last a few bars. In this case, what should you do to make a song?

Thank you

Sample manipulation is key.

Cut/slice, re-arrange, adsr, pitch/filter/velocity envelopes, FX, etc.

Don't use loops/samples as it came, unless you're making music for elevators/supermarket (nothing wrong with that, btw).

sorry for my bad english

Real Grooves Audio · Post by **Real Grooves Audio** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:29 pm

I started making music after a long hiatus back in 2000. My buddy introduced me to Acid Pro2 and I started using loops to supplement my piano and vocal tracks. I also play drums, but at the time there was no easy way to mic an acoustic kit and track it in my apartment. I haven't used any loops to create songs since 2002, but it was a great learning experience (especially coming from a band where we all wrote together) and it forced me to dig deep and think about my music/songs in a different way.

My advice would be to think about all the parts of your song and the "virtual" band feeling you are trying to create. Depending on your needs you will need bass and drum loops, etc. Do NOT use them as is because others are likely using the same sounds. So chop them up, pitch them up or down, reverse them, etc. Even if they are short loops, this approach will work.

Hope this helps.

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:43 pm

roll your own loops with virtual instruments. It's so much more gratifying.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:48 pm

fantasyvn wrote:But many other packages only contain very short riffs with synth, piano, guitar. They may only last a few bars. In this case, what should you do to make a song?

As long as the loops and phrases got the same bpm and key, you can't go wrong

Listen to old Daft Punk, then you'll hear how much can be done with a couple of loops. Breakdowns and filtering is the key to success

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:50 pm

I used to use premade loops, and it's fun but it's not as fun as writing your own stuff.

However you can definitely go the old school way and listen to a bunch of records, sample them and then use slices from the sounds you recorded.

Want a cool kick sound? hit up your old 60's vinyl collection and slice it in Recycle or something. Honestly if your into using Loops you should pick up Ableton live & a copy of propellerhead Recycle.

The only reason I suggest live is that it has an entire workflow that revolves around using loops.

How can you make a song from a loops package?