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VisionHD · Post by **VisionHD** » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:42 am

Urs wrote:This must be the most controversial debate about a synth no-one has ever heard (the one sound example was of an algorithm that is not likely to make it into the final version).

It's good that people don't get their hopes high. We're not cloning Sylenth.

Hello, I own two of u-he synths. Slowly returning to making music (primary income comes from 3D art - interiors and stuff).

What discouraged me is your statement that it is good that we dont hope too much, because you are not cloning Sylenth. Does that mean that you dont intend to make a synth that produces such quality sound??? My zebra and my diva are imho two best sounding synths, together with Sylenth, each in their own expertise area.

I like the futuristic interface screenshot of the Hive or supersynth, but somehow I am sure It will be able to produce that perfect warm sound we are all looking for.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:44 am

I am sure it will sound great. It just wont sound like sylenth. That's all i think he was saying.
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chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:46 am

VisionHD wrote: What discouraged me is your statement that it is good that we dont hope too much, because you are not cloning Sylenth. Does that mean that you dont intend to make a synth that produces such quality sound???

The way i understood it, it simply won't be an exact copy of Sylenth1.

I'm sure the sound quality (whatever that is) will be as good. It just will sound different i guess.

^^ what zvenx says.

VisionHD · Post by **VisionHD** » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:19 pm

Regarding different sound... We have three basic waveforms... They will always sound the same. I dont know much about programming, but you can replicate almost any patch from modern vst on another vst. spire, sylenth, synthmaster... Basic filters too. I guess its down to finesse. Warmer sound, filters, mod matrix possibilities.

kbaccki · Post by **kbaccki** » Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:37 pm

VisionHD wrote:Regarding different sound... We have three basic waveforms... They will always sound the same.

Uh oh. Somebody done stepped in synth doo-doo.

Lots of factors from a synth architecture and implementation perspective... Features, filter impl, oversampling, etc etc. but def not all synths are created equally, and even those that are may sound subjectively better, different, etc.

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:59 pm

The three basic waveforms are mathematical abstractions. What we actually "get" when we play a synth depends on how it's coded, what key we press, the other components in the signal path and their quality, etc.

VisionHD · Post by **VisionHD** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:07 am

kbaccki wrote:
VisionHD wrote:Regarding different sound... We have three basic waveforms... They will always sound the same.
Uh oh. Somebody done stepped in synth doo-doo.

Lots of factors from a synth architecture and implementation perspective... Features, filter impl, oversampling, etc etc. but def not all synths are created equally, and even those that are may sound subjectively better, different, etc.

Hahaha

I understand how vst synths work and starting to comprehend the amount of knowledge necessary to create a synth which sounds "good". All I wanted to say that I was a bit afraid of that particular statement that we should not get our hopes high, cause it is not another Sylenth.

Another thing is that if you have a nice melody and a set of fingers to play it, synth will sound good with the damn init patch

Anyway, HIVE is a 100% purchase for me, as well as every u-he synth.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:02 pm

No worries, Hive will sound pretty good. We're pulling out all the stops to make a CPU efficient counterpart to Diva, but merely for the digital supersaw / unison stack paradigm. Such as, there won't be a "realistic" analogue filter emulation but the filters will still be really good.

e-modic · Post by **e-modic** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:27 pm

Urs wrote: there won't be a "realistic" analogue filter emulation

you started a good thing with Diva I had hopes you would take the realistic Filter design to a next level with Hive. If not you, who else would?

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:38 pm

I am sure Hive wouldn't be u-he's last synth.
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jiglesias86 · Post by **jiglesias86** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:39 pm

Is there any sound demo?

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:43 pm

I guess it's synth month because U-HE is finishing the new Hive synth

You do release u-he isn't the only company out there releasing synths right? Re-reading the topic kinda sounds presumptuous or overly fanboyish to me imo...

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:51 pm

e-modic wrote:
Urs wrote: there won't be a "realistic" analogue filter emulation
you started a good thing with Diva I had hopes you would take the realistic Filter design to a next level with Hive. If not you, who else would?

What filter you wanted to be emulated in Hive?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:55 pm

e-modic wrote: you started a good thing with Diva I had hopes you would take the realistic Filter design to a next level with Hive. If not you, who else would?

Did you read this?

Urs wrote:We're pulling out all the stops to make a CPU efficient counterpart to Diva

MillerSam · Post by **MillerSam** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:09 pm

I hope for a first beta Version in November