Spire Synthesizer

[Gadget Fiend]

You guys might want to check your setups for virus or something because I'm on a 3 year old i7 laptop and Spire CPU usage is miniscule.

Well, those "one finger wonder" patches favored by laptop jockeys don't use as much CPU. But some people - often referred to as "musicians" - actually play chords (those sounds that occur when you press more than one finger at a time on your keyboard). Some people even use this thingy called a "sustain pedal" - that they use with their feet!

It's this playing stuff, i.e., musicianship, that tends to use more of your CPU.

[TonyVegas]

Interesting theory. I've never before heard of a musicians credibility being based on the number of notes he plays at once. Anyway, I play loads of chords and never have any problem with Spire. Even with long tailed ambient pads with many voices and lots of modulation. Who knows. Maybe I'm just a better programer than you lot.

[sqigls]

OR… maybe you're a total douche?

[mutantdog]

I play loads of chords

C Major mostly, i assume.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[Gadget Fiend]

OR… maybe you're a total douche?

That sounds about right.

[aboukirev]

A lot of Spire patches are soaked in built-in reverb with a long tail. Even if you play a melody, in polyphonic mode that results into a wall of sound. A lot of CPU used indeed. Turn off reverb or dial it down a bit and you'll get better CPU usage. You can add a pinch of external reverb on a track later.

[TonyVegas]

OR… maybe you're a total douche?

That sounds about right.

Wow. The Christmas spirit is strong in you folks. Stay classy guys.

[Echoes in the Attic]

Interesting theory. I've never before heard of a musicians credibility being based on the number of notes he plays at once. Anyway, I play loads of chords and never have any problem with Spire. Even with long tailed ambient pads with many voices and lots of modulation. Who knows. Maybe I'm just a better programer than you lot.

If everyone else is finding spire to be cpu heavy (myself included with an i7 quad core laptop from last year) and you are not, then my guess is that you are probably using patches that are much more simple than the majority of users. Nothing wrong with that. It is possible to make low cpu patches by using only certain features, but most people create and use patches that make use of more functions I guess, like many factory patches.

[pdxindy]

You guys might want to check your setups for virus or something because I'm on a 3 year old i7 laptop and Spire CPU usage is miniscule.

no, i know what i am doing and my i7 laptop has a hard time, even in logic which is the most cpu friendly host out. in fact i am selling spire cause the cpu just isn't worth it. One year and still waiting for promised optimisation.

Adding multi core would be a start, like diva. This way the product can multithread outside the DAW and use the spare cpu cyles the daw can't get to anyway.

Oh and i don't have a single virus.

Spire crushes my CPU...

[TonyVegas]

Interesting theory. I've never before heard of a musicians credibility being based on the number of notes he plays at once. Anyway, I play loads of chords and never have any problem with Spire. Even with long tailed ambient pads with many voices and lots of modulation. Who knows. Maybe I'm just a better programer than you lot.

If everyone else is finding spire to be cpu heavy (myself included with an i7 quad core laptop from last year) and you are not, then my guess is that you are probably using patches that are much more simple than the majority of users. Nothing wrong with that. It is possible to make low cpu patches by using only certain features, but most people create and use patches that make use of more functions I guess, like many factory patches.

I don't believe that "most people" use synths that way. Nor do I believe that "the majority" are having any problems with Spire. A select group of people, the kind of people who tend to hang out at KVR, "test" synths by piling on as much modulation and fx as allowed with no interest in making useful or pleasant sounds.

These people have CPU troubles because they actively seek them out by programing the synth with the express intention of seeing if they can break it. And that methodology is highly misleading to normal users, who have no CPU problems at all. I call this the "KVR-Tard-Factor".

[trimph1]

Aahhhh...so now there are KVRTards, eh?

Good call.

[VitaminD]

I suspect Spire is not as optimized on Apple PCs.

In windows, I find it is a fairly lean cpu using synth.. I can stack loads and loads of instances playing big pads and such with no trouble what so ever. I'm using a desktop i5 2500 (from probably 3 or 4 years ago) with no modifications to it or windows (stock win7 64).

Plus laptop i core processors are slower than their desktop counterparts IIRC..

[Nielzie]

KVRTard here Diversion does sound very good though!

[chk071]

In windows, I find it is a fairly lean cpu using synth..

Same here, not sure if i would call it lean, but it uses about as much or a bit less CPU than Largo for example. But of course more than Z3TA 2 or Dune. The first demo of Diva on the other hand literally slaughtered my comp's CPU. I guess that's a lot better now though too.