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D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:53 pm

Sylenth is also 64bit on pc but if you are on a mac Hive would be better since it is only 32bit on Mac

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:58 pm

D-Fusion wrote:Sylenth is also 64bit on pc but if you are on a mac Hive would be better since it is only 32bit on Mac

Since when is Sylenth1 64 bit on PC? I heard that it's always only been 32 bit otherwise I probably would have picked it up by now.

fluffy_little_something · Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:01 pm

wagtunes wrote:
D-Fusion wrote:Sylenth is also 64bit on pc but if you are on a mac Hive would be better since it is only 32bit on Mac
Since when is Sylenth1 64 bit on PC? I heard that it's always only been 32 bit otherwise I probably would have picked it up by now.

Since 2008 it seems:
http://www.kvraudio.com/news/lennardigi ... _x64_10392

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:03 pm

D-Fusion wrote:Sylenth is also 64bit on pc but if you are on a mac Hive would be better since it is only 32bit on Mac

Yeah no doubt. I was actually very surprised that 64-bit AU didn't even happen when Armin van Buuren appealed on Facebook (? ) about it.

I can only guess what work it is, but seriously, years and years have passed.

fluffy_little_something · Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:26 pm

Programmed my little Sylenth string machine today

Still needs some optimizing, but I guess I will be able to kick my rompler completely, which is great because I hate the Kontakt Player and the audible looping in the string samples

https://app.box.com/s/09vkmo46ntu93prvfu3z1ctu0ljrxx12

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:42 pm

chk071 wrote:
D-Fusion wrote:Sylenth is also 64bit on pc but if you are on a mac Hive would be better since it is only 32bit on Mac
Yeah no doubt. I was actually very surprised that 64-bit AU didn't even happen when Armin van Buuren appealed on Facebook (? ) about it. I can only guess what work it is, but seriously, years and years have passed.

Yes it is a shame that a company ignores their customers they way Lennar does regarding this example

I also find it weird since he is very quick when it comes to fix the pc version when there is something like the windows 8 bug.

But when it comes to comparing the sound of Hive and Sylenth i think they do work great together atleast on PC

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:26 pm

wagtunes wrote:I need extra popcorn for this thread. LOL.

In short, it's not the synth. It's the person using it. So if the music being made with Hive or Sylenth or whatever sounds like crap, blame the person making the music and not the synth.

If you listen to the Hive OSC, you will find one classical type piece that is absolutely gorgeous. Yes, made with Hive. Go figure.

I chuckle at the people who bash a synth because the music being made isn't their cup of tea.

Here's a suggestion. Worry about the music that YOU make and add something positive to the music community instead of tearing things down because you've got a bug up your ass. If I think a certain genre of music is getting "lazy" and not doing what it CAN do to be great, I do what I can to change the perception but I don't waste my time and energy bashing things, whether I like the music or not.

It isn't productive and accomplishes nothing.

^THIS.

It is an interesting topic to me though. I don't do Trance... and I'm not actually sure what EDM actually describes. I make music. I have a lot of influences and loves... one thing though... I'm very capable of separating a "sound" from a style of music. I generally don't like country music, but many of those classic guitar sounds are just great. I use them all the time in what ever type of music I'm making if it fits. Trance and dubstep are the same. If I come across a dub-a-wub preset that I like, I'm not going to ignore it because I'm not that into dubstep. Why would I? It's not like there are any laws or rules in this.

So recently, I picked up a Virus Snow. I used to have a C, which I liked, but found that software instruments really filled the role it played in my music, so I ditched it. Never looked back really. I was happy with Sylenth1, Zebra 2, etc. Then, Access launched the Ti. I listened to many demos... and none of them did anything for me. Years went by. Every now and then I'd listen to a Virus Ti demo. Nothing ever made me think, "Oh man, I should play with one of these in person!"

Then, due to a forced studio downsize, I started looking at a replacement for my KingKORG. I really liked it, but it was big and the keyboard wasn't that great or I'd have used it as a master midi controller and kept it. So again, the Virus TI kept coming up in my research. Finally, I found a demo of it really putting it's wave/grain/formant tables though their paces.

I fell in love! It's like this gorgeous woman had been wearing hideous makeup and a moo-moo and all of the sudden I caught her coming out of the shower naked.... why was Access hiding this? Anyway, bought the Snow. Very happy, but I keep thinking that with the right audio demos on their site Access could really stomp Waldorf in the world of wavetable synthesizers. I honestly believe that the Virus Ti is currently the best wavetable synth in production next to the Solaris... but I don't think many really know that.

So, that was my experience with a hardware synth, but it doesn't translate into a world where a demo of an instrument is a click away. If you are too lazy to check out a synth like Hive and decided that based on "tarted-up compressed" demo tracks that it's not for you, well then it's your loss. Download the instrument, try and make your own patches for it and then make a decision. (yes, I'm aware that for the last 15 years I've never lived more than 2 miles away from a Guitar Center where I could have demoed a Virus Ti... bad on me.)

So, anyway, Hive. Sylenth1. Yeah. I played with Hive a bit... but felt that with owning Sylenth1, a Snow, Diva, etc, it didn't cover enough new ground to make me interested in it. Seemed good for bread and butter synth sounds, but that's not enough for me these days. I'm much more interested in instruments like Serum and the upcoming Omnisphere 2. Software that goes new places, not just a brush up of more of the same. Nothing wrong with it, I wish Urs success. I know everything they learn with every instrument and effect they make will find it's way, in some shape or form, into the next version of Zebra, which I will patently wait for.

C-note · Post by **C-note** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:32 am

Time to get back on topic. Sylenth1 will always rule all your Hives until Sylenth 2 drops.

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:20 am

Soundwise maybe.

But concerning GUI design, support, feature developement I'd rather buy three copies of Hive than one Sylenth.

GHOST19 · Post by **GHOST19** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:40 pm

Hive eats a lot of my CPU, way more than Sylenth on my setup. Strange considering the aim of the synth and the reviews. Seems it's not optimized the same for everyone.

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:18 pm

GHOST19 wrote:Seems it's not optimized the same for everyone.

Yup, on mine, they optimized it special for my computer.

LFO8 · Post by **LFO8** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:40 pm

BasariStudios wrote:
GHOST19 wrote:Seems it's not optimized the same for everyone.
Yup, on mine, they optimized it special for my computer.

They did the same for me.

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:24 am

Now that Sylenth v3 beta for Win available with skins and resizable gui,
will it become a hive killer ?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:19 pm

dune_rave wrote:Now that Sylenth v3 beta for Win available with skins and resizable gui,
will it become a hive killer ?

I will check the statistics...

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:34 pm

dune_rave wrote:Now that Sylenth v3 beta for Win available with skins and resizable gui,
will it become a hive killer ?

For sure because both skins and resizable gui have a big impact on the overall sound capabilities of a synth.

Now Hive is here, is it RIP Sylenth?