Omnisphere 2 First Impressions?

[aMUSEd]

Yeah but I see no reason to see that every-time it loads, I wish you could dispense with it and just have an optional options or about tab for when you want to check. Plus with the new version there's too much space in the new screen, it looks a bit messy imho.

[Phorous]

Yeah but I see no reason to see that every-time it loads, I wish you could dispense with it and just have an optional options or about tab for when you want to check. Plus with the new version there's too much space in the new screen, it looks a bit messy imho.

It still loads faster than NI synths or Alchemy for me. But yes, it definitely feels like V2 loads a bit slower.

[aMUSEd]

Oh the load time is fine, I just don't see the point of having to click on the startup screen every time.

[Phorous]

Oh the load time is fine, I just don't see the point of having to click on the startup screen every time.

Good point

I wonder that too myself, lucky its just a minor annoyance.

[elassi]

Because the first screen is the "check for updates" screen. You certainly don't want that mixed in with the main interface with all that's in this synth. It's cluttered enough as it is.

Those things belong to a menu like in any other software on this planet. The "Utility menu" for example (s. image).

Like aMUSED I see no reason to have this option every time I start Omni.

[wagtunes]

Because the first screen is the "check for updates" screen. You certainly don't want that mixed in with the main interface with all that's in this synth. It's cluttered enough as it is.

Those things belong to a menu like in any other software on this planet. The "Utility menu" for example (s. image).

Like aMUSED I see no reason to have this option every time I start Omni.

So send a complaint to Eric. Maybe he'll take the screen, set it on fire and take a sample of it for the next update.

Burning Update Screen.

I wonder what it will sound like?

[lotus2035]

I'm 42, I grew up listening to all forms of underground electronic music since the early 90s.
Being from Dublin, Ireland we had heavy regular exposure to what was going on in the underground scenes in the U.K. and the rest of Europe long before the European sound came to the USA.
Despite my background, even still I can say that I think Dubstep and all this other wub wub blip blop bullshit is not any kind of progression or stepping stone to something new and improved or the next stage of anything but rather the end of the line for a tired and worn out genre that has run out of new ideas in much the same way that rock music and many other styles did.
To be honest I'm disappointed in Spectrasonics pandering to that demographic because it's already gotten old and outdated. We all know how cheesy those old trance sounds from the mid-late 90s sound today, they haven't dated as well as some sounds from the 80s have they?
This dubstep stuff will have even less of a shelf life than that and dare I say will date Omnisphere itself a lot more than any bread and butter pad sounds.

What ever you say, pops.

You're suggesting that dubstep is beyond me because I'm too old and "don't get it". It's a cliché and it's one I can understand when it's being directed at an older person who grew up listening to Frank Sinatra and Bing Crosby being introduced to Punk or Thrash Metal. They would call it noise as there was a huge gulf between those two styles, I get it, 100%. Music changed a hell of a lot and really fast in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's but since the late to early 00's things have most definitely levelled off especially in terms of music sounding more "extreme". The gulf between generations is not the same as it was before. If anything I'm your older brother not your "pops". I was 32 when I joined this forum FFS.

Incidentally, I have a brother who is 20 years younger than me and he listens to a lot of the same metal albums I did in the 80's, 90's.

[RLSguitar]

Why don't you kids just try to be like me? You know; cool. Or are you calling it 'fly' These days? Fresh?

I believe it's "outta sight" these days, allthough "far out" is still accepted. I prefer "bitchin'" or "boss".

Being a teen during the 70s, I'll stick with "cool," though we also would say "far out" back then too, as well ass "bad ass" and "groovy," IIRC.

[wagtunes]

I'm 42, I grew up listening to all forms of underground electronic music since the early 90s.
Being from Dublin, Ireland we had heavy regular exposure to what was going on in the underground scenes in the U.K. and the rest of Europe long before the European sound came to the USA.
Despite my background, even still I can say that I think Dubstep and all this other wub wub blip blop bullshit is not any kind of progression or stepping stone to something new and improved or the next stage of anything but rather the end of the line for a tired and worn out genre that has run out of new ideas in much the same way that rock music and many other styles did.
To be honest I'm disappointed in Spectrasonics pandering to that demographic because it's already gotten old and outdated. We all know how cheesy those old trance sounds from the mid-late 90s sound today, they haven't dated as well as some sounds from the 80s have they?
This dubstep stuff will have even less of a shelf life than that and dare I say will date Omnisphere itself a lot more than any bread and butter pad sounds.

What ever you say, pops.

You're suggesting that dubstep is beyond me because I'm too old and "don't get it". It's a cliché and it's one I can understand when it's being directed at an older person who grew up listening to Frank Sinatra and Bing Crosby being introduced to Punk or Thrash Metal. They would call it noise as there was a huge gulf between those two styles, I get it, 100%. Music changed a hell of a lot and really fast in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's but since the late to early 00's things have most definitely levelled off especially in terms of music sounding more "extreme". The gulf between generations is not the same as it was before. If anything I'm your older brother not your "pops". I was 32 when I joined this forum FFS.

Incidentally, I have a brother who is 20 years younger than me and he listens to a lot of the same metal albums I did in the 80's, 90's.

The reason there is less of a gap between the sounds of each generation is because there is nothing left to do outside of extremely experimental music and even that's been done to death.

The problem is technology. The discovery of new technology and new ways of making sound greatly contributed to the wide divide between the 60s, 70s and 80s. As we started getting closer to today, especially after 2000 hit, we began to notice that sound innovation started to slow down. In fact, in some respects it has reverted back to a lot of what was going on in the late 70s and early 80s.

What we need, and I don't even know if this is possible anymore, is for somebody to really come up with something different that also "appeals" which is easier said than done. There is almost no sound that I can think of that hasn't already been done by the Tangerine Dreams, the Kraftwerks, the Skrillex's and everything in between.

There is really nowhere for electronic music to go that we can't point a finger to and say "That sounds like..." and pick out our blast from the past.

A few synths that have come out recently (like Cycle) are trying to break us out of this funk that we're in. But then Cycle is so damn complicated to use, it's doubtful many will adapt it.

But let's face it. we can't invent electric guitars anymore. We can't invent the synthesizer anymore. We can't invent sampled instruments anymore. We can't invent the supersaw anymore.

What is left? And if there is anything, why isn't somebody coming up with it?

Ultimately, what's going to happen is that we're going to have a retro period. It's already starting, to some degree. with songs like "All About The Bass" which is a definite throwback to the 50s.

If you're looking for true innovation in sound design, like we had when we went from playing Les Paul Guitars to Moog synthesizers, it's not going to happen.

It simply can't anymore.

[noiseboyuk]

Much as this whole debate about what-music-is-what is really tedious in an Omni thread, I agree totally with Wagtunes. I've been boring everyone for years on music styles being led by technology for the entire last century, but now we've run out of places to go.

Still. How about that Omni 2, huh? Killer synth, eh?

[elassi]

Still. How about that Omni 2, huh? Killer synth, eh?

Strange thing is: the more I use v2, the less I remember how things have been solved in v1.

Makes comparison a bit difficult.

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Edit: dropped "can't"

[Muziksculp]

So... Any first impressions of Omnisphere 2 ?

[Phorous]

Still. How about that Omni 2, huh? Killer synth, eh?

Strange thing is: the more I use v2, the less I can't remember how things have been solved in v1.

Makes comparison a bit difficult.

So far my most used sound features are the new effects units (love inner space and precision compressor) and the new and improved FM stuff.

The internal synth routing is a bit more flexible too which is a big plus. If I recall correctly you couldn't control the waveshaper routing in Omni V1.

Mood based browsing and the new categories are great... I have tried sound match a few times and while its helpful, I still havn't really found a good way to use it in my workflow.

[elassi]

I have tried sound match a few times and while its helpful, I still havn't really found a good way to use it in my workflow.

Same here. Guess it has to do with the "traditional" way of picking presets by category (instruments etc.). While it seems to be an interesting approach I have the feeling that the common method is more "on spot".

However, a bit of surprise while chosing patches isn't bad at all.

[aMUSEd]

So... Any first impressions of Omnisphere 2 ?

It's great. Well worth the update. Loads to explore.