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yellukhan · Post by **yellukhan** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:29 pm

i think you meant this two:
saving rhythm

using rhythm

lulukom · Post by **lulukom** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:50 pm

Oh, yes, thank you very much!

secondstep · Post by **secondstep** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:31 pm

musicdevelopments wrote:
How about being able to turn an ordinary phrase into a phrase generator? You could right click on this phrase and select 'Convert to Melody Generator' for example, and the rhythm of the original phrase remains the same, but the notes are changed by the chosen phrase generator. Not bad at all!

Hi Attila can l register my vote for this idea! It would be a significant help with solving my persistant problems with ghost phrases.

Thanks

Sean

nexussynth · Post by **nexussynth** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:44 pm

i vote for this feature too!

yellukhan · Post by **yellukhan** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:18 pm

Hi Attila,
i think this might useful,
when we want to apply rhythm from a phrase to the Generator's rhythm section,
without saving rhythm to the Browser first.

tolstoevsky · Post by **tolstoevsky** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:28 pm

yellukhan wrote:Hi Attila,
i think this might useful,
when we want to apply rhythm from a phrase to the Generator's rhythm section,
without saving rhythm to the Browser first.

Sure, dear yellukhan, it's very sound idea, which I am waiting to be implemented for a long time already (I asked for something similar in the last year, as I remember

)

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:44 pm

Copying the rhythm of a phrase to another phrase is already possible since v3.0 by using drag-and-drop (rather than copy/paste).

Ctrl-drag a phrase: copy rhythm from original phrase with variations (what you see in the piano roll)
Ctrl-Shift-drag a phrase: copy the original rhythm, without variations

When dropping the rhythm pattern on a phrase, you can
- either hold down Ctrl to force adding an 'Apply Rhythm' variation
- or release all keys, to replace the rhythm generator in a phrase generator or add an 'Apply Rhythm' to an ordinary phrase. When there is already 'Apply Rhythm' added, the rhythm pattern will be replaced with the dropped rhythm.

Thanks,
Attila

yellukhan · Post by **yellukhan** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:11 pm

oh!
- or release all keys, to replace the rhythm generator in a phrase generator
i didn't know that.

Thank you Attila.

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:36 pm

No problem, yellukhan, it wasn't documented, only in release notes....
If you need anything else (like copying a rhythm generator with all its settings rather than just the rhythm pattern) that can be added.

Thanks,
Attila

tolstoevsky · Post by **tolstoevsky** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:45 am

musicdevelopments wrote:Copying the rhythm of a phrase to another phrase is already possible since v3.0 by using drag-and-drop (rather than copy/paste).

Ctrl-drag a phrase: copy rhythm from original phrase with variations (what you see in the piano roll)
Ctrl-Shift-drag a phrase: copy the original rhythm, without variations

When dropping the rhythm pattern on a phrase, you can
- either hold down Ctrl to force adding an 'Apply Rhythm' variation
- or release all keys, to replace the rhythm generator in a phrase generator or add an 'Apply Rhythm' to an ordinary phrase. When there is already 'Apply Rhythm' added, the rhythm pattern will be replaced with the dropped rhythm.

Thanks,
Attila

Sorry, Attila, I missed (or just forgot) somehow that you already added that nice option before

My apologies for that grumbling remark!
In fact, I have to stress that your unstoppable work on constant improvement of various RC features often results in many "hidden" or not well documented add-ons & tricks "under the hood", so it's very difficult even for experienced/old users of your great program to recall and quickly reproduce them during realtime usage of it

It would be nice to collect all those different "quick mouse/key actions", which you mentioned in your numerous recent updates and to put them all in one additional help-file (simple text format could be used for that purpose, as I think).
And also I would like to inform you about one additional annoying problem which I noticed recently in your latest versions (it seems to me that this problem appeared somewhere after version 3.0 was introduced): for some reason now I can not add new user soundfonts by no means

I tried different options to insert them manually inside dedicated soundfolders of RC, I also tried to check usual "scan soundfonts" option, but after formal accepting by the program of those additions (i.e. all those new SFs appear inside SF-list as "installed") in fact RC didn't create new special ".rcINST" files for them, so they couldn't be used for substitutions. Please, check it.
Thanks in advance and my best wishes to you,
T.

yellukhan · Post by **yellukhan** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:49 am

just thinking a loud...
would useful if we have "Keep existing rhythm of chords" also in the Harmonize Melody tab as an option?

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:29 pm

Hi Tolstoevsky,
no need to apologize, the program is complex enough that some shortcuts or features are hard to find.
This information is available when you click on the small 'info' button in the left bottom corner of the window. I always update all built-in help when something changes.

I tried hard but could not reproduce any difficulties about adding soundfonts. Which OS&version do you use?

Thanks,
Attila

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:32 pm

yellukhan wrote:just thinking a loud...
would useful if we have "Keep existing rhythm of chords" also in the Harmonize Melody tab as an option?

It would be difficult to add because the harmonized chords have no relation to the existing master track chords. I don't think it would be useful even for subsequent harmonizations.

Thanks!
Attila

yellukhan · Post by **yellukhan** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:02 pm

Got it now clearly, thanks Attila!

tolstoevsky · Post by **tolstoevsky** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:52 pm

musicdevelopments wrote:Hi Tolstoevsky,
no need to apologize, the program is complex enough that some shortcuts or features are hard to find.
This information is available when you click on the small 'info' button in the left bottom corner of the window. I always update all built-in help when something changes.

I tried hard but could not reproduce any difficulties about adding soundfonts. Which OS&version do you use?

Thanks,
Attila

OK, Attila, I'll try to check that info button more often in the future, at least after each new beta appearance

Though, I am still inclined to think that it's much better to have a separate (and periodically updated) textual help file with all new features and tricks included - in that case I would prefer to print it for further quick reference (or am I wrong again and it's easy to make with that "info field"? Sorry in advance if it's already possible

).
Concerning my troubles with soundfonts adding: FYI, I am an old-fashioned Win7x64 user, nothing special, indeed

BTW, I already have several different directories with RC-versions installed (one for your main 3.0, second with 3.1x betas (it was created automatically during new installation) and may be even something else (just for fun - C:\Users\HP\AppData\Roaming\RapidComposer, C:\Users\HP\AppData\Roaming\RapidComposerV3 and also two in ProgramFiles - C:\Program Files\RapidComposer V3 (x64) and C:\Program Files\RapidComposer...) May be that "diversity of choices" causes some internal conflicts? Personally I am not sure, but...

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