Well, it can't be many patches they taken from the D50Aryaroman wrote:Reading between the lines, it sounds to me like they have. The concept of this product seems to be "Hey, let's sample these famous factory presets from these synths".
When it comes to the 1980's inspired sounds and soundsets, then many have been made. I have made several for various products myself.Aryaroman wrote:Surprised no one thought of (as in released a product) this before.
BeatSkillz on their website wrote: Features sounds that you have heard countless times from that era and always wanted but couldn’t find! Here they are, sampled from original 80s Synths and samplers using high outboard gear for maximum fidelity.
Read again what I wrote - it's *not* about patches, and I've already said the general consensus is that *patches* can't be copyrighted.Numanoid wrote:In Germany I think it is allowed to do it. There was some kind of copyright case there in the past but the court ruled that patches can't be copyrighted
How long do those samples last? I thought there was some time limit...beely wrote:Read again what I wrote - it's *not* about patches, and I've already said the general consensus is that *patches* can't be copyrighted.Numanoid wrote:In Germany I think it is allowed to do it. There was some kind of copyright case there in the past but the court ruled that patches can't be copyrighted
It's about the *sound recordings* - the PCM samples, which *are* legally protected under the sound recording copyright.
If you saying that because the D-50 is nearly 30 years old, the copyright might be up, then I think that's probably optimistic. Not sure about company copyrights, but standard copyright is typically something like the owners life + 50 years...fluffy_little_something wrote:How long do those samples last? I thought there was some time limit...
I don't know what he's saying, but that's of course not true. However, it might be the case that not all of those samples are as protected as you think that they are. The law with respect to what was required to obtain protection was different in the 80s than it is today.beely wrote:If you saying that because the D-50 is nearly 30 years old, the copyright might be up, then I think that's probably optimistic. Not sure about company copyrights, but standard copyright is typically something like the owners life + 50 years...fluffy_little_something wrote:How long do those samples last? I thought there was some time limit...
Sure. I'm just not willing to be taken to court to test this!ghettosynth wrote:However, it might be the case that not all of those samples are as protected as you think that they are.
Has sound recording copyrights changed that much in the last few decades?ghettosynth wrote:The law with respect to what was required to obtain protection was different in the 80s than it is today.
The requirements were different. Look up the MT-32 emulator case where Roland could not provide necessary documentation because they had not put the appropriate copyright notices into the ROM.beely wrote:Sure. I'm just not willing to be taken to court to test this!ghettosynth wrote:However, it might be the case that not all of those samples are as protected as you think that they are.
Has sound recording copyrights changed that much in the last few decades?ghettosynth wrote:The law with respect to what was required to obtain protection was different in the 80s than it is today.
Will do, thanks. I'm not familiar with the details of that situation - from what you say, it sounds like it fell through not because they didn't own the copyright, but that they couldn't prove to a court they owned it? I'll have a nose around and read up on it if I can...ghettosynth wrote:The requirements were different. Look up the MT-32 emulator case where Roland could not provide necessary documentation because they had not put the appropriate copyright notices into the ROM.
They probably got a nastygram from Roland. That doesn't mean that what they were doing is illegal, per se. It just means that they made an economic decision to not sell that product.Numanoid wrote:Binarymusic got flagged down, had to withdraw the LA50 instrument for Kontakt
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... inarymusic
There is no short or long limit. You need permission to use a copywritten recording.fluffy_little_something wrote:No, I meant the duration of a sample. Just like there is a limit for the length of other people's music one can sample.
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