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jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:54 pm

Have you ever played jazz? I'm going to be frank here. Jazz is a life. You humble yourself before all the people whose shoulders you hope to stand on after decades of dedication.
There are not tips and tricks or a youtube tutorial that are going to do one thing for you here.

mladi · Post by **mladi** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:19 pm

Didn't the OP just asked for some music to listen to?

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:27 pm

He also asked for some tutorial recommendations. In which case the only sane answer would be: learn to play an instrument. Get a teacher. Play Jazz. Play some more Jazz. Study the greats. Develop your style. Practice. Practice some more. Then, when you have the chops, write and arrange some original music. Anything else won't cut it. We're talking about one of the richest heritages of modern music, complex and multi-faceted, and if you think that watching/reading some tutorials will enable you to write and arrange music in that vein, you're seriously fooling yourself.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:18 am

mladi wrote:Didn't the OP just asked for some music to listen to?

Why not read the thread and find out? Then you can make a pertinent reply!

he wrote:Are there any good tutorial recomendations for mordern Jazz ( I want to learn write melody and arrange different instruments for a big band jazz )

I, pertinently, wrote:Have you ever played jazz? I'm going to be frank here. Jazz is a life. You humble yourself before all the people whose shoulders you hope to stand on after decades of dedication.
There are not tips and tricks or a youtube tutorial that are going to do one thing for you here.

And I'm pretty sure he's not a jazz musician.

vignesh.vijay · Post by **vignesh.vijay** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:55 pm

I am not a jazz musician but would like to learn more about it .
I was just looking for tutorials online for me to begin with and study about Jazz arrangements . This is out of my own self interest .
And no , I certainly did not say I was looking for shortcuts .

nordickvr · Post by **nordickvr** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:53 pm

May be giving some clues about what you already know would help.

vignesh.vijay · Post by **vignesh.vijay** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:00 pm

nordickvr wrote:May be giving some clues about what you already know would help.

I have learnt piano and completed 6 grades in western classical music from Trinity .
I know to read and write music . I have few certifications on music theory as well .

I am mostly into music production and programming these days (mostly film and pop ) . I also know some amount of audio engineering . Mostly a computer musician .

I am looking to make a jazz kinda track and need some help on how to get started for that . I would like to learn about arrangement as well .
I know its an ocean . But I would like to know about how to arrange for a jazz piece and program the same .

Thanks

nordickvr · Post by **nordickvr** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:14 pm

I'm not good at teaching, lot of people over here can give great advice on this topic.
Here's really just my two cents.
This sounds pretty specific to me, i.e. "I am looking to make a jazz kinda track".
Break the ice by first finding a music piece that sounds like/in the style of/in the mood of what you'r looking for.
Then transcribes it the best you can.
That would at least have the benefit of narrowing the questions you would then ask here or somewhere else.
Yah, definitely an ocean!

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:43 pm

^^^ This gets you hands-on, which is best. Also, there are some good youtube tutorials by aimee nolte, rick beato, kent hewitt, & dave frank; and a 'jazz writing course' textbook with website & audio downloads by dariusz terefenko (my preference).

rp314 · Post by **rp314** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:08 am

One of John Beasley's projects when he's not working on American Idol...

K-Bee · Post by **K-Bee** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:13 am

Danish Radio Big Band
The Orchestra (also danish)
WDR Big Band (Germany)
GRP All Star Big Band (they did 2 albums on Dave Grusin's now defunct GRP label - well worth seeking out

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Bob Mintzer Big Band (He's the sax player from Yellowjacketts)
Clayton-Hamilton Jazz Orchestra (John Clayton, bass, Jeff Hamilton, drums)
Gerald Wilson Orchestra
Thad Jones / Eclipse - great album from 1980 (vinyl Only)

rp314 · Post by **rp314** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:43 pm

Willem Breuker (4 November 1944, Amsterdam – 23 July 2010 Amsterdam) was a Dutch jazz bandleader, composer, arranger, saxophonist, and bass clarinetist.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:27 am

vignesh.vijay wrote:
nordickvr wrote:May be giving some clues about what you already know would help.
Mostly a computer musician

- looking to make a jazz kinda track.

As I said, became the musician that makes jazz music and then we'll talk. The context was already pretty apparent to me, you're a computer musician looking for tips and tricks like this is just another thing you canvass for tips and tricks for. Sorry.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:28 am

In the meantime, 9th chords.

ATN69 · Post by **ATN69** » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:00 am

Since you know how to read music I want to suggest you to go looking for some books called "The real book". This is a good way to start. These books contain all traditional Jazz tunes and you can see chord progressions, tempo, melodies, etc in these books. But being a jazz player mean you should practise on your improvisation skills and the only way to do that is by practise for hours and hours.

https://www.amazon.com/slp/the-real-boo ... 228ro2633k

Jazz Orchestra music - recommendation