Is there still such a thing like instrumentalist snobbery around?

[jancivil]

Sorry, but this whole thread is flame bait at heart. It's not very collegial to start with, unless you're looking for other people lacking in certain skills to commiserate with. It looks like you want to dredge up a division here and see it fought out. It's depressing, but leaving it alone I didn't find preferable to getting a couple things about this off my chest. I wish I had never clicked on the thing.

Jan.
Until now, members have been discussing this nice and informatively. In so far as I can call this “my thread” they are entitled to say anything related to the topic. I liked your own story from music school so can you plz keep it at this level and not use sledgehammers to crack nuts? People are exchaning personal views, not dog fighting. If you regret clicking on the thread, it shouldn`t be that hard to leave it again. How compulsive can such an issue be to you? You already have your mind set up, so there is really nothing for you to see here.

Insofar as a thread being for discussion in general I feel just as free as a member here to give a hint of my world as you do w. yours.

That's my personal view. You've successfully goaded me into a fight, have you? Now that I have seen your argument, and I candidly said that today I decided leaving it alone wasn't the thing for me, you think to insinuate I have a psych problem you can analyze in order to impugn my integrity?
Yeah, go on with your bad self with that, then.

Refer to my point at top.

[Aloysius]

Glad that's sorted out. Now let's get back to the instrumentalist nobbery

[IncarnateX]

I don't know what point you have except I detect a strong whiff of inverse snobbery.

Before you work yourself up further, I will kindly ask you to read my modifications to the OP at page 5, viewtopic.php?f=4&t=508726&start=60

Just to ensure you that we didn`t exactly hate each other and could still have fun together. The division I am talking about is an artistic division which were very dominant in the 80s in my country but not so much during the decade to come, where even my friendly sax player got himself a Korg M1.

[jancivil]

I don't know what point you have except I detect a strong whiff of inverse snobbery.

Before you work yourself up further,

please quit gaslighting me with this kind of shit.

I tried to get where you were coming from. I'll look at the revision. Are you rethinking the tone of the original post? Oh page 5, yeah I read all of what you said. It's an artistic division between people that didn't listen in improvisation, so it's you underplaying vs the keyboardist who overplayed. No, that's really personality. That's a good point btw, but it's not a great basis for a thesis.

It's not you vs me, or even close, man. The overall disposition of the original post would tend to bring the division between people who think getting a DAW and, having done nothing towards gaining chops to music if at all believe they're on perfectly solid footing and when anyone advises learning songs, and getting your shit together on_a_musical_instrument is primary, here's a fight. Maybe the room is more mature than it used to be, but that's what I'm on about.

[IncarnateX]

That's my personal view. You've successfully goaded me into a fight, have you? Now that I have seen your argument, and I candidly said that today I decided leaving it alone wasn't the thing for me, you think to insinuate I have a psych problem you can analyze in order to impugn my integrity?
Yeah, go on with your bad self with that, then.

Jeez, here we go (again) Hi Jan and bye Jan. I have to mute you to concentrate on the friendly voices around. Yours are as paranoid as ever. Only one fighting here is you...appearantly with yourself as usual.

[dellboy]

Maybe a violinist looks down on a kettledrummer, who knows

Violinist's look down on other violinist's.

Even worse, they look down on the violin you use.

Instrument snobbery is nothing new.

[jancivil]

as paranoid as ever. Only one fighting here is you...appearantly with yourself as usual.

Gaslighting people is a bad sign of their own security on an issue. What does this stuff have to do with anything other than old beef. I reported this one. Maybe you should refrain from purely personal attacks; and from re-rehearsing old resentments. Oh wait... there goes your original post.

[IncarnateX]

So what happens if the power goes down permanently and the only thing left to make music with are old fashioned acoustic instruments ?

Then I would get so busy trying to save the food in my refrigerator, my freezer, light candles and try to find out when the power will be back that I probably will not think much about making music as long as the power is down. Not something that happens often where I am from. Maybe 3-4 times this decade and only for very short periods. Are you living near stormy coasts?

[jancivil]

I think "what if" there is a permanent power outage is what we call a thought experiment.

Can people with no computer make music now? Can the people that never made music before computer software made it seem possible to continue to make, you know, tarnce, now?

Two strings? I once auditioned on the guitar in the bandleader's apartment, which had one string. He was amazed but fortunately his band didn't want me, for lifestyle reasons. It was just proving a point to him in the first place.

Back to two strings:




if a four-stringer snobs her out, who cares? That's not really a zen riddle btw.



edited for syntax! that's right.

[vurt]

wasn't meant to be serious on my part either.
every body and his dog/lobster knows zombie gizzards make excellent strings for acoustic instruments.

[dellboy]

id hate to be around when you get down to two strings

cmon dell, we gotta get out of the city before the zombies kills us all...


no way! im not leaving without some new strings and a funky strap!

Well work as a team.

You look for strings for me and I'll go look for petrol for your generator.

Oh, and a wheelbarrow to put it in.

[dellboy]

So what happens if the power goes down permanently and the only thing left to make music with are old fashioned acoustic instruments ?

Then I would get so busy trying to save the food in my refrigerator, my freezer, light candles and try to find out when the power will be back that I probably will not think much about making music as long as the power is down. Not something that happens often where I am from. Maybe 3-4 times this decade and only for very short periods. Are you living near stormy coasts?

Your not playing fair, I said "permanently".

[jancivil]

wasn't meant to be serious on my part either...

I know that but it's a good embark point to show other things.

reportedly, before nylon there was 'catgut' for strings! this is not an area I have researched...

[donkey tugger]

So now I ask you, do you have any experience in this regard? are there still instrumentalist snobs around or have they become extinct?

So what happens if the power goes down permanently and the only thing left to make music with are old fashioned acoustic instruments ?

No electric power = no music

I made music long before I got into electronic, and if the power goes down I will still make music.

Yeah, I am a snob.

You could still play the metel, but it would sound something like this;

http://www.bennyleeds7.myfreeola.uk/tehmetel.mp3

Which would be unfortunate.

[vurt]

So what happens if the power goes down permanently and the only thing left to make music with are old fashioned acoustic instruments ?

Then I would get so busy trying to save the food in my refrigerator, my freezer, light candles and try to find out when the power will be back that I probably will not think much about making music as long as the power is down. Not something that happens often where I am from. Maybe 3-4 times this decade and only for very short periods. Are you living near stormy coasts?

Your not playing fair, I said "permanently".

what i don't understand is, what kind of artist/musician, has food in a refrigerator or freezer to worry about?