UVI Plate

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Liero
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979 posts since 6 Mar, 2004

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:27 am

otristan wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:23 am
Liero wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:15 am
UVI, please make the R/L transducer/microphone XY coordinates open for automation. I know they're not meant for realtime manipulation but many of us create controller macros in DAW's like Ableton Live, Bitwig, Reaper for fast usage.

For example a macro to control the centeredness of both the transducers would be crazy useful (actually in the plugin itself). Now I have to do pixel perfect mouse movements twice for careful and symmetrical parameter changes.

Please! :hail: :hail: :hail:
Added your feature request to our list.
Still perfect symmetry usually sounds less interesting FWIW
Yes, but you might still want symmetrical _changes_ to a asymmetrical starting point of parameters behind one, simple to use macro knob.

Anyway, thank you!! :hug: :hug: This is looking like an insta-buy for me.
Last edited by Liero on Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:31 am, edited 1 time in total.

teacue
KVRian
524 posts since 22 Jun, 2003 from Germany

Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:30 am

otristan wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:08 am
teacue wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:58 am
Out of curiosity I would like to know if the Physical Modelling used is mainly based on IR.
Actually, IR is clearly the opposite of physical modelling.
Still, IR of real EMT was used to see if the physical modelling matched the reality but there are absolutely no IR in the product itself.
Thanks a lot for your answer :)
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Burillo
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3191 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell

Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:38 am

Liero wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:27 am
otristan wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:23 am
Liero wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:15 am
UVI, please make the R/L transducer/microphone XY coordinates open for automation. I know they're not meant for realtime manipulation but many of us create controller macros in DAW's like Ableton Live, Bitwig, Reaper for fast usage.

For example a macro to control the centeredness of both the transducers would be crazy useful (actually in the plugin itself). Now I have to do pixel perfect mouse movements twice for careful and symmetrical parameter changes.

Please! :hail: :hail: :hail:
Added your feature request to our list.
Still perfect symmetry usually sounds less interesting FWIW
Yes, but you might still want symmetrical _changes_ to a asymmetrical starting point of parameters behind one, simple to use macro knob.

Anyway, thank you!! :hug: :hug: This is looking like an insta-buy for me.
aka parameter linking :)
From Russia with love

otristan
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1938 posts since 28 Mar, 2005

Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:40 am

Liero wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:27 am
Yes, but you might still want symmetrical _changes_ to a asymmetrical starting point of parameters behind one, simple to use macro knob.

Anyway, thank you!! :hug: :hug: This is looking like an insta-buy for me.
In that case, we better add a shift + mouse drag that move both mic/speaker pairs while keeping their distance.
Olivier Tristan
Developer - UVI Team
http://www.uvi.net

delsquaredpsi
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1 posts since 2 Oct, 2017

Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:51 am

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Krakatau wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:26 am
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/pa1-dy ... td/details

by quick comparison, would this plate emulation give some automation possibilities that UVi plates don't ?

…UVI plate seems really stunning, too bad that this small company can't compete, me thinks
Indeed, UVI's plate reverb looks pretty similar to Physical Audio's PA1 plate reverb.
https://www.physicalaudio.co.uk/PA1 (https://www.physicalaudio.co.uk/PA1)
Has anyone else tried PA1 to compare?

jens
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19102 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:52 am

rasmusklump wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:39 am
Very Impressing Video
I stopped watching when dry was the lead voice alone while wet was with the whole background choir - apparently all singers except one were going only through the plate send but not into the main out directly. :dog:
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simmo75
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1162 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle

Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:04 am

delsquaredpsi wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:51 am
Krakatau wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:26 am
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/pa1-dy ... td/details

by quick comparison, would this plate emulation give some automation possibilities that UVi plates don't ?

…UVI plate seems really stunning, too bad that this small company can't compete, me thinks
Indeed, UVI's plate reverb looks pretty similar to Physical Audio's PA1 plate reverb.
https://www.physicalaudio.co.uk/PA1
Has anyone else tried PA1 to compare?
I own the PA 1 Plate reverb, it’s beautiful!
I would definitely recommend to demo it.

I haven’t tried the UVI Plate as I don’t want to be tempted to buy something I don’t need...

Liero
KVRian
979 posts since 6 Mar, 2004

Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:04 am

otristan wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:40 am
Liero wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:27 am
Yes, but you might still want symmetrical _changes_ to a asymmetrical starting point of parameters behind one, simple to use macro knob.

Anyway, thank you!! :hug: :hug: This is looking like an insta-buy for me.
In that case, we better add a shift + mouse drag that move both mic/speaker pairs while keeping their distance.
Ctrl dragging for fine control could be very useful too because when mic and speaker are very close to each other even 1 pixel differences make significant changes to the sound.

Alt dragging so that when you move one speaker or mic to the left, the other moves to the right by the same amount was what I was referring to earlier with 'centeredness' control.

cjwseven7
KVRer
17 posts since 13 Aug, 2016 from Edinburgh

Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:25 am

otristan wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:08 am
teacue wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:58 am
Out of curiosity I would like to know if the Physical Modelling used is mainly based on IR.
Actually, IR is clearly the opposite of physical modelling.
Still, IR of real EMT was used to see if the physical modelling matched the reality but there are absolutely no IR in the product itself.
Hey Olivier! Michele from Physical Audio here. I'm jumping in because our product was mentioned in this thread ...

And true, I couldn't help but notice some similarities ...
For everybody's info. Here the current layout and controls of PA1 Plate Reverb:
https://www.physicalaudio.co.uk/PA1
I noticed that the materials are the same, even laid out in the same order. The controls are the same, most with the same ranges! Even the 8 band T60 control is the same.
The moving pickups is a feature we had in an early version of the plugin:
https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2016/1 ... au-plugin/

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so, thanks for drawing so much inspiration from our PA1 Plate Reverb!

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:58 am

cjwseven7 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:25 am
...thanks for drawing so much inspiration from our PA1 Plate Reverb!
Well, unfortunately you both fail on the demo front: UVI's demo seems to crash Logic projects that include it, upon reloading. And you seem to think that inserting 6 seconds silence regularly is conducive to prospective sales :scared:

Wallet = Safe! :tu:

otristan
KVRAF
1938 posts since 28 Mar, 2005

Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:14 am

cjwseven7 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:25 am
Hey Olivier! Michele from Physical Audio here. I'm jumping in because our product was mentioned in this thread ...

And true, I couldn't help but notice some similarities ...
For everybody's info. Here the current layout and controls of PA1 Plate Reverb:
https://www.physicalaudio.co.uk/PA1
I noticed that the materials are the same, even laid out in the same order. The controls are the same, most with the same ranges! Even the 8 band T60 control is the same.
The moving pickups is a feature we had in an early version of the plugin:
https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2016/1 ... au-plugin/

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so, thanks for drawing so much inspiration from our PA1 Plate Reverb!
All the controls in those screenshot are pretty generic given a physical plate simulation...
Olivier Tristan
Developer - UVI Team
http://www.uvi.net

otristan
KVRAF
1938 posts since 28 Mar, 2005

Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:20 am

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:58 am
Well, unfortunately you both fail on the demo front: UVI's demo seems to crash Logic projects that include it, upon reloading. And you seem to think that inserting 6 seconds silence regularly is conducive to prospective sales :scared:

Wallet = Safe! :tu:
If you have a crashlog, please don't hesitate to send it in P.M.

Thanks !
Olivier Tristan
Developer - UVI Team
http://www.uvi.net

SLiC
KVRAF
3229 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:22 am

otristan wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:14 am
cjwseven7 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:25 am
Hey Olivier! Michele from Physical Audio here. I'm jumping in because our product was mentioned in this thread ...

And true, I couldn't help but notice some similarities ...
For everybody's info. Here the current layout and controls of PA1 Plate Reverb:
https://www.physicalaudio.co.uk/PA1
I noticed that the materials are the same, even laid out in the same order. The controls are the same, most with the same ranges! Even the 8 band T60 control is the same.
The moving pickups is a feature we had in an early version of the plugin:
https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2016/1 ... au-plugin/

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so, thanks for drawing so much inspiration from our PA1 Plate Reverb!
All the controls in those screenshot are pretty generic given a physical plate simulation...
Yeh, OK, but aside from the same materials in the same order, the same controls, the same ranges, the same 8 band control, the same moving pickups how is it even similar ;-)
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otristan
KVRAF
1938 posts since 28 Mar, 2005

Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:28 am

SLiC wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:22 am
Yeh, OK, but aside from the same materials in the same order, the same controls, the same ranges, the same 8 band control, the same moving pickups how is it even similar ;-)
10 band control for ours ;-)
Olivier Tristan
Developer - UVI Team
http://www.uvi.net

cjwseven7
KVRer
17 posts since 13 Aug, 2016 from Edinburgh

Re: UVI Plate

Post Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:32 am

otristan wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:14 am
cjwseven7 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:25 am
Hey Olivier! Michele from Physical Audio here. I'm jumping in because our product was mentioned in this thread ...

And true, I couldn't help but notice some similarities ...
For everybody's info. Here the current layout and controls of PA1 Plate Reverb:
https://www.physicalaudio.co.uk/PA1
I noticed that the materials are the same, even laid out in the same order. The controls are the same, most with the same ranges! Even the 8 band T60 control is the same.
The moving pickups is a feature we had in an early version of the plugin:
https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2016/1 ... au-plugin/

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so, thanks for drawing so much inspiration from our PA1 Plate Reverb!
All the controls in those screenshot are pretty generic given a physical plate simulation...
Ok, are you able to explain why you chose the material sequence Steel-Gold-Silver-Titanium-Aluminium, like in PA1? These are by no means standard materials for a plate reverb. There are thousands of materials and compounds to choose from. Why those?

Also, the ranges of the control knobs are surprisingly similar to PA1. Why are you letting the area to go up to 6m^2? That's again a non standard size for a plate reverb unit. Same goes for the tension, from 0 to 2000. By the way, I don't think you implemented these features correctly. You don't give physical units on the plate. Also, on your website you are measuring the plate area in metres, not square metres. The tension has no units, which is weird. Also, it is false to claim that the tension raises the frequency of the highest modes ... it should raise the frequency of all the modes, if implemented properly.

There are a number of things that look a little unclear, and I think they would deserve a better explanation.

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