Is music just an elaborate arpeggio?
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Who?telecode wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:55 am Modernity in the present is defined by Drake, Hasley, DJ Khalid
And they define modernity to whom, where, why and regarding what?
Is that so evident that you do not need say?
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- 111289 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
humans are too slow to perceive the present.
damn neural latency!
damn neural latency!
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Teh Google, in response to search terms has:
Showing results for Drake, Halsey, DJ Khaled
Search instead for Drake, Hasley, DJ Khalid
never heard of any of them even by their actual names
Is this supposed to be authoritative?
If that is supposed to support your 'Modern people and modern audiences' don't care about whether melody is quality or about musicianship (which was the goal you shot at), you're only running around in circles conveying but a certain vacuity, I'd say.
Showing results for Drake, Halsey, DJ Khaled
Search instead for Drake, Hasley, DJ Khalid
never heard of any of them even by their actual names
Is this supposed to be authoritative?
If that is supposed to support your 'Modern people and modern audiences' don't care about whether melody is quality or about musicianship (which was the goal you shot at), you're only running around in circles conveying but a certain vacuity, I'd say.
- addled muppet weed
- 111289 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
ive heard of drake.
he kicked the spanish armadas ass back in the day.
he kicked the spanish armadas ass back in the day.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
LMAO
<VIDEO: Halsey dances and twerks to Chance The Rapper
The song she's grooving to is from DJ Khaled, Justin Bieber, and Chance The Rapper called "No Brainer." She notes that Chance The Rapper makes "booties werk all around the world.">
Everybody finds their level, I guess. Yeah, one really has to embrace this shit or have a closed mind.

<VIDEO: Halsey dances and twerks to Chance The Rapper
The song she's grooving to is from DJ Khaled, Justin Bieber, and Chance The Rapper called "No Brainer." She notes that Chance The Rapper makes "booties werk all around the world.">
Everybody finds their level, I guess. Yeah, one really has to embrace this shit or have a closed mind.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
"defined by" - the pompousness of that and we find this is your goalpost
seriously, you made my morning with that

Looks to me like "DJ Khaled" is kinda 2011 tho
seriously, you made my morning with that
Looks to me like "DJ Khaled" is kinda 2011 tho
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
one of the sillier things in that, abstracted as it is by Incarnate's quote, is 'modernity is [defined by]' which one supposes looks more serious than 'modern is...'
Because as a term *modernity* is a whole thing in various disciplines.
EG: In the view of Michel Foucault (1975) (classified as a proponent of postmodernism though he himself rejected the "postmodernism" label, considering his work as a "a critical history of modernity"—see, e.g., Call 2002, 65), "modernity" as a historical category is marked by developments such as a questioning or rejection of tradition; the prioritization of individualism, freedom and formal equality; faith in inevitable social, scientific and technological progress, rationalization and professionalization, a movement from feudalism (or agrarianism) toward capitalism and the market economy, industrialization, urbanization and secularization, the development of the nation-state, representative democracy, public education (etc.) (Foucault 1977, 170–77).
So "modernity is defined by..." cannot but make me laugh at the pretense (and I had a pretty good guess at the quality of goalpost before that)...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modernity#Definition
▹ Political
▹ Sociological
▹ Cultural and philosophical
▹ Secularization
▹ Scientific
▹ Artistic
et cetera
but really it's Justin Bieber, Chance The Rapper and making booties werk all around the world, isn't it.
Look up the word "defined" some day, too
Because as a term *modernity* is a whole thing in various disciplines.
EG: In the view of Michel Foucault (1975) (classified as a proponent of postmodernism though he himself rejected the "postmodernism" label, considering his work as a "a critical history of modernity"—see, e.g., Call 2002, 65), "modernity" as a historical category is marked by developments such as a questioning or rejection of tradition; the prioritization of individualism, freedom and formal equality; faith in inevitable social, scientific and technological progress, rationalization and professionalization, a movement from feudalism (or agrarianism) toward capitalism and the market economy, industrialization, urbanization and secularization, the development of the nation-state, representative democracy, public education (etc.) (Foucault 1977, 170–77).
So "modernity is defined by..." cannot but make me laugh at the pretense (and I had a pretty good guess at the quality of goalpost before that)...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modernity#Definition
▹ Political
▹ Sociological
▹ Cultural and philosophical
▹ Secularization
▹ Scientific
▹ Artistic
et cetera
but really it's Justin Bieber, Chance The Rapper and making booties werk all around the world, isn't it.
Look up the word "defined" some day, too
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
So quelle surprise there are people who don't care more than that, but why is that a metric or a point, the point 'but there is shit melody' is only underscored by pointing to that. Oh, I remember, you wanted me to be closed-minded and not modern for having the interest.
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Oh my. And they locked the produzahs thread as it was but trolling. If this is modernity, we ARE doomed. Am I lying?jancivil wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:35 pm LMAO
<VIDEO: Halsey dances and twerks to Chance The Rapper
The song she's grooving to is from DJ Khaled, Justin Bieber, and Chance The Rapper called "No Brainer." She notes that Chance The Rapper makes "booties werk all around the world.">
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I figured you'd locked it.
The people spoke!
No, while it appears people are getting stupider exponentially every second, there is evidently a lot of interest in musicianship and creating new forms among the young people, there is surely more interest than there ever was.
And dancing fun silly times is not the same goalpost at all, which was already true with Disco (I was aware of the difference in jazz going back to WWII: Dance vs Concert band). Far be it from me to discourage it, but as anything to bring in talking about music it's just a nothingness today.
(once upon a time, the dance band was populated by the same quality musicians as 'Concert' essentially)
The people spoke!
No, while it appears people are getting stupider exponentially every second, there is evidently a lot of interest in musicianship and creating new forms among the young people, there is surely more interest than there ever was.
And dancing fun silly times is not the same goalpost at all, which was already true with Disco (I was aware of the difference in jazz going back to WWII: Dance vs Concert band). Far be it from me to discourage it, but as anything to bring in talking about music it's just a nothingness today.
(once upon a time, the dance band was populated by the same quality musicians as 'Concert' essentially)
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I did not lock my thread
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im not sure it was subject matter as oppose to the aggressive manner with which sides where being argued.
it did get a bit heated for something which essentially, isn't important
it did get a bit heated for something which essentially, isn't important