Mulab 8:This is by far the best timestretch algo of all DAWs!!!

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whyterabbyt wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:21 pm To be honest, what I want is MuLab timeline/tracks inside MUX.
Yea!
Bidule and such do not have timeline/tracks inside their modular environment.
Have I misunderstood your comment?

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Kalamata Kid wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:55 pm
whyterabbyt wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:21 pm To be honest, what I want is MuLab timeline/tracks inside MUX.
Yea!
Bidule and such do not have timeline/tracks inside their modular environment.
Have I misunderstood your comment?
I dont think you have, no. Basically, I like Bidule for lots of reasons, so for a lot of ways I work my 'ideal world' would be having a plugin inside it that could do timelines and tracks if I wanted them. MuLab-as-a-plugin would very much tick that box.
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Off topic to the time stretch but does MuLab have automatic plugin delay compensation?

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whyterabbyt wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:05 pm
Kalamata Kid wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:55 pm
whyterabbyt wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:21 pm To be honest, what I want is MuLab timeline/tracks inside MUX.
Yea!
Bidule and such do not have timeline/tracks inside their modular environment.
Have I misunderstood your comment?
I dont think you have, no. Basically, I like Bidule for lots of reasons, so for a lot of ways I work my 'ideal world' would be having a plugin inside it that could do timelines and tracks if I wanted them. MuLab-as-a-plugin would very much tick that box.
I am all for what you suggested And if included I may then get Mux.
IIRC I wrote a FR for something similar in the Bidule forum.

The closet will be running FL Studio inside Mux. But then you don't want a complete DAW in Mux but just the timelines and tracks. That makes a lot of sense.

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Sorry for the OT
whyterabbyt,
Found it
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Kalamata Kid wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:40 pm
whyterabbyt wrote:
jens wrote:Reaper - amongst some other things (such as extensive modulation options for every plugin-parameter) - offers true feedback routing though - afaik no other modular host has this - am I mistaken?
Bidule.
Too bad Bidule does not ave a sequencer/audio tracks module like energyXT.
https://www.plogue.com/products/bidule/
Or is there such a module and I just have not found it.
Can use FL Studio as a VST/VSTi module inside Bidule.

I use Bidule stand alone more for testing and the VSTi as a
input or as an instrument.

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Thanks Trancit!
You just earned him 99 euros, and found me an awesome sample mangler :tu:

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I think most DAWs use the zplane algorithm. So if this is better than that, then it's better than ''all'' the others.
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The audio examples are truly spectacular! This might just be the new benchmark.. if that's the case Jo just became pretty rich provided that he can license it all over the place.
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I do love a good stretch algo. I'd be interested to see how this compares to PaulxStretch which is what I use when I want to just stretch a sample into a padish sound.

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SoundPorn wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:05 am I do love a good stretch algo. I'd be interested to see how this compares to PaulxStretch which is what I use when I want to just stretch a sample into a padish sound.
Would be great if someone offered a comparison.

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i gotta say, i wasn't expecting much... but yes - that was definitely worth a thread.

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Kalamata Kid wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:10 am
SoundPorn wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:05 am I do love a good stretch algo. I'd be interested to see how this compares to PaulxStretch which is what I use when I want to just stretch a sample into a padish sound.
Would be great if someone offered a comparison.
They have different purposes.
PauXStretch is an effect that intentionally 'colors' the stretch, adds harmonics, etc.
MuLab is higher quality and is more of a composition tool, that lets you layer multiple stretches to create complex harmonies using different "lanes" in the same track.
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Personally I avoid time stretching, the only time I'd consider using it would be to create 1990's Jungle music, as I once did with sound trackers on the Amiga back in the day.

For the purpose of trying to make audio sound better, I rather stick to the original material rather than anything that remotely sounds inferior.
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If ur stretching something 400% it's gonna be more or less for similar purposes at that point u want texture more then quality. A comparison of these textures would still be interesting.
Michael L wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:54 am
Kalamata Kid wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:10 am
SoundPorn wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:05 am I do love a good stretch algo. I'd be interested to see how this compares to PaulxStretch which is what I use when I want to just stretch a sample into a padish sound.
Would be great if someone offered a comparison.
They have different purposes.
PauXStretch is an effect that intentionally 'colors' the stretch, adds harmonics, etc.
MuLab is higher quality and is more of a composition tool, that lets you layer multiple stretches to create complex harmonies using different "lanes" in the same track.

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MuLab also lets you change the pitch to tune entire samples or individual sections, transpose them, and it has a feature to align transients to beats. The timestretch feature is the centrepiece of an entire "audio sequencer"
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