[rock] Hey Caroline
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2590 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
Our newest song is "Hey Caroline":
Direct link: "Hey Caroline"
Website with graphics (much more exciting): "Hey Caroline"
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You can find more information, e.g. what Caroline is all
about, by scrolling down.
Comments or ratings - good and critical - about the
composition, mix or sounds - are very welcome!
Have fun
Direct link: "Hey Caroline"
Website with graphics (much more exciting): "Hey Caroline"
Note: This requires clicking the grey "play"-button.
You can find more information, e.g. what Caroline is all
about, by scrolling down.
Comments or ratings - good and critical - about the
composition, mix or sounds - are very welcome!
Have fun
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- KVRian
- 963 posts since 20 Oct, 2018
I liked the song very much but...
I leave it to the mixing people.
Lets just say that i think this is a perfect example of not making room for each instrument.
Maybe i'm wrong? Lets see what the others say.
I'm also a bit curious if the others think this volume level is nice.
(I know wagtunes like it loud).
I leave it to the mixing people.
Lets just say that i think this is a perfect example of not making room for each instrument.
Maybe i'm wrong? Lets see what the others say.
I'm also a bit curious if the others think this volume level is nice.
(I know wagtunes like it loud).
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2590 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
Thank you, Saffran!
And then the vocals and the guitars fight each other. The guitarist would like to have
the guitars a bit louder and stronger - and the vocalist - that is me - would like to have
the vocals understood. The question is: should the vocals be a little quieter? Or should
the distorted guitars be quieter? Or should the guitars be taken back a little at 3 khz?
do with listening habits, of course. I think that the quieter you can hear it, i.e. via
smartphone or in the car, the louder it has to be mixed overall. Mmmh?
So yes - the chorus should sound tight and loud!
And then the vocals and the guitars fight each other. The guitarist would like to have
the guitars a bit louder and stronger - and the vocalist - that is me - would like to have
the vocals understood. The question is: should the vocals be a little quieter? Or should
the distorted guitars be quieter? Or should the guitars be taken back a little at 3 khz?
So yeah ... it's relatively loud - but I think the song sounds good the way it is. It has to
do with listening habits, of course. I think that the quieter you can hear it, i.e. via
smartphone or in the car, the louder it has to be mixed overall. Mmmh?
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- KVRAF
- 1988 posts since 19 Aug, 2008
In terms of mixing, whenever you have distorted guitar and vocals, you have a mixing headache. Often people put the guitars well off to the side and have the vocal up the middle.
There are some good-sounding more minimal sections (e.g. @1:31>)
I don't think its "mixed badly" , just in those sections where you have distorted guitar, you could make things clearer.
( I like the song by the way )
There are some good-sounding more minimal sections (e.g. @1:31>)
I don't think its "mixed badly" , just in those sections where you have distorted guitar, you could make things clearer.
( I like the song by the way )
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2590 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
Thank you, Bansaw!
will reconsider the chorus. My suggestion would be to lower the distorted guitar by 1.2
dB at 3 kHz ... let's see.
The minimal sections are the verses. In any case, on the suggestions of both of you, weBansaw wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:24 pm In terms of mixing, whenever you have distorted guitar and vocals, you have a mixing headache. Often people put the guitars well off to the side and have the vocal up the middle.
There are some good-sounding more minimal sections (e.g. @1:31>)
I don't think its "mixed badly" , just in those sections where you have distorted guitar, you could make things clearer.
( I like the song by the way )
will reconsider the chorus. My suggestion would be to lower the distorted guitar by 1.2
dB at 3 kHz ... let's see.
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- KVRAF
- 1626 posts since 28 Oct, 2005 from Finland
- KVRAF
- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
enjoyed it. powerful mix, if not a bit cluttered as
others noted. but sill rocks my socks! well done
others noted. but sill rocks my socks! well done
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- KVRAF
- 11506 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK
I think I agree that the volume of the vocals could be increased a little in the chorus. I think you should also change "believe" (verb) to "belief" (noun) in the pre-chorus on the lyric page.
The song itself was very well written and I thought was a very poignant and insightful piece of writing about the repression (or perhaps self-repression) of the human spirit. The overall sound was powerful, with lots of dynamics to drive the song along. I really liked the vocal harmony in the chorus.
Good work
The song itself was very well written and I thought was a very poignant and insightful piece of writing about the repression (or perhaps self-repression) of the human spirit. The overall sound was powerful, with lots of dynamics to drive the song along. I really liked the vocal harmony in the chorus.
Good work
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2590 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2590 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
- KVRian
- 1297 posts since 23 Jun, 2007 from Findlay OH USA
Good work all around, but yes, I'd bring out those vocals a wee bit more in some of the verses (the first, for sure). I like the mix, feels right for the song style.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2590 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
I now have a new version online, in which the chorus guitar is a tad
quieter.
Thanks for pointing out "belief"! Your close attention surprises me -
I will correct that as soon as possible.
Thank for your detailed feedback! I really appreciate that!seismic1 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:16 pm The song itself was very well written and I thought was a very poignant and insightful piece of writing about the repression (or perhaps self-repression) of the human spirit. The overall sound was powerful, with lots of dynamics to drive the song along. I really liked the vocal harmony in the chorus.
Good work
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- KVRist
- 235 posts since 30 Dec, 2018
I don't mind the mix being a little cluttered since the song still shines through. As a guitarist, guitars can never be too loud or so we like to think...
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2590 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
Haha, yes, Rock and Caroline!
And - seismic1 has already underlined that - there is a
special reason for Caroline: After 20 years, Caroline has
given up and subordinated herself to the pressures of
everyday life. That's exactly the tragedy in this song.
Great icons by the way!
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