How you use clip launcher in your DAW?

[vurt]

So make up your mind which one is it? Are you only using the Clip Launcher to just record bits and pieces but arrange them in Arranger (#3)? Or do you basically complete the song in Clip Launcher and just refine in Arranger (#2)?

Obviously I don't expect anyone to always work the same way - sometimes I have nothing in Clip Launcher, sometime just one scene that inspires the rest of the track in Arranger, sometimes I have a big part of full arrangement spread out in scenes in Clip Launcher. But in my case it was closer - and definitely more frequent - to work as I described in #3

You have to bear in mind that I am new to Bitwig, and the way I work is probably not optimum, but in many ways I am copying how I work in a linear DAW.

So I start in the normal way in session view by making as many tracks as I need with various synths sounds on them. You know, bass on one, pad on another, drums etc. I probably normally record a bass clip of four bars as a guide which then loops. Go ahead and record synth piano, pad etc on different tracks, and varying lengths of bars. The melody can be many bars long. Then I start copying clips into scenes leaving out bars as needed, and bringing them back in when needed. When the whole thing is arranged as scenes in the order I want them, I then drag them in that same sequence into the arranger view. The end result is much like it would be in a linear DAW.

I guess the main difference from a traditional linear DAW is that the original song is now in both views, the session, and arranger. And if I wanted I could play it live by triggering clips and scenes,or just treat it as a normal linear recording. A great way of working I think.

Now what number is that in your poll?

that would be "fish" then this post to explain.

[pdxindy]

especially operators and 'expand...' works nicely together in Bitwig

Be cool to have a Bounce to Midi option to print Note FX... or Expand could have option to work with Note FX.

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[xbitz]

^^^ the performance mode in the FL world

[xbitz]

especially operators and 'expand...' works nicely together in Bitwig

Be cool to have a Bounce to Midi option to print Note FX... or Expand could have option to work with Note FX.

hopefully MIDI Grid gonna contain this too ... fingers crossed

[antic604]

Now what number is that in your poll?

That sounds like #2, then.

[dellboy]

Number #5 is a mystery to me: "I never touch the clip launcher".

Why buy a DAW with a clip launcher if you never use it?

I remember years ago when I had Ableton Lite installed and could never understand how to use the session view. Every now and then I would fire it up to give it another go and was unable to fathom out what all the fuss was about. Then I must have watched a video or something and the penny dropped about recording in loop mode and I finally saw how brilliant the concept is. It makes me wonder if some people have yet to discover how to use the session view if they never use it.

And then you get people who think that the clip launcher is only for electronic or EDM music. The truth is that I see no reason why Mozart could have not used it to write a symphony. And it can in fact be used for any genre of music with a little bit of creative thinking. Its true that it lends itself very well to repeating patterns that drop in and out as seen in dance and EDM, but lots of other genres also do that as well.

[Michael L]

The truth is that I see no reason why Mozart could have not used it to write a symphony.

How could Mozart use a clip launcher to write a symphony?
How could it be used in jazz?
Sincere question, because motifs vary in those genres.

[dellboy]

The truth is that I see no reason why Mozart could have not used it to write a symphony.

How could Mozart use a clip launcher to write a symphony?
How could it be used in jazz?
Sincere question, because motifs vary in those genres.

A clip can be one bar long or 500 bars long. A DAW with a clip launcher can have as many tracks as you like and host whatever VSTs you like. So each track could be an orchestral instrument. Symphonic music can have repeating motifs or long extended parts. Scenes could be used for repeating phrases etc. I am not suggesting that Mozart would have chosen Bitwig over Finale, but just that if it was the only tool available he would have used his creative genius to make it work somehow.

Jazz would be fine as well for the same reasons. Some types of Jazz have lots of repeating phrases that they eventually come back around to. Some clips could be many bars long for extended improvisations.

[antic604]

...Jazz would be fine as well for the same reasons. Some types of Jazz have lots of repeating phrases that they eventually come back around to. Some clips could be many bars long for extended improvisations.

Exactly. Not to mention that you can get a lot of mileage even from a short clip, with all the MIDI effect devices available in Bitwig or Live, that can completely transform what's being played either randomly or in some sort of pre-programmed sequence.

But definitely Bitwig or Live wouldn't be my first choice for orchestral or jazz music, the same way like Cubase or Reaper wouldn't for generative techno.

[jancivil]

Where does the clip come from for a Mozart?
"if it was the only tool available" is an hypothesis in circular argument, a cul de sac.
How is that a demonstration of how it would work? The way the argument is articulated for me it may as well be saying he'd use a DAW with other capabilities, that happens to have a clip launcher.

Not everyone even knows the term here. AFAIK, a clip is already fabricated, it's a bit of audio. It sounds like to work that way would be a giant hassle and simply the wrong tool. Hey, I may not even get it, but it's not been elucidated there, that's for sure.

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[Michael L]

Have you gave the workflow a fair try?

I have not, because I believe clips minimise variety and surprise
However my DAW will be adding a clip launcher so I am "clip-curious"

Here is a familiar tune (Brandenburg #3) with midi animated (and coloured using this system: http://www.musanim.com/HarmonicColoring/)
How could Bach have 'produced' this by creatively using a clip launcher?

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