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mothra · Post by **mothra** » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:54 pm

martinjuenke wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:55 pm What do you think about Convology XT True Stereo?
Have you tested Best Service Hall of Fame in comparision?
I'm really interested in your opinion!

To be honest Ive never really used the True Stereo IR's. My go-tos are a few of the SRV2000 and AKG BX IRs from their packs (I have two of the Springs packs and the 80s DSP one), or I use user-made IR's from the older Lexicon boxes.

Didnt even know Best Service made a reverb, but I still regularly use some of their old sample cds.

_leras · Post by **_leras** » Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:24 am

Caine123 wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:50 am thx a lot, i got all Valhalla Products as they are so far very stable, always working and to my ears great sounding. i just didn compare them with R2,R4 yet. but with these issues i really loose nerves with the shitty support of companies (izotope) etc.

You should be completely set if you have all the valhalla plug ins.

If you have these and mix with delays, eq, saturation pre/post reverb on your sends you can probably get any reverb sound you need.

(Perhaps just missing an epic large space verb like blackhole or breeze.)

I really like different flavours of reverb but I try to keep self aware that unless I'm really using it creatively as part of a specific sound, then the actual reverb really isn't that important or worth worrying about too much.

eluherlu · Post by **eluherlu** » Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:15 pm

Lazarus451 wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:59 pm NI Raum was a nice surprise. It gave me that "this sounds really good" feeling. And it was free. But I'm not an reverb expert.

Yeah I used the default preset alot for big verb. And I also used valhalla vintageverb default preset alot too

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:10 am

It would take a very long time to experiment with all settings and modes in Valhalla plugins. I'd guess that since there are lots of good reverbs at low prices most people base their judgement on 'out of the box' type settings, and switch to other reverbs that out of the box cater better in certain departments.
Pheonixverb is extremely pure but 'alive' sounding, it doesn't blur the subject matter, doesn't swamp the soundstage, but doesn't sound cold and icy either (as Sonible Smart Reverb does). I've not managed to replicate those qualities yet in Valhalla plugins, but I haven't tried that hard. Like others I've also tend to find Valhalla a bit harsh, artificial, not quite open enough etc... hard to put into words exactly. But quite likely I just haven't gone deep enough into them yet.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:34 am

I didnt read all replies yet but thx a lot guys!!

What im looking out is some cleaner but also can sound massive, e.g. for big soundscapes like having machine/industrysounds in reverb and you think you are in a scifi dark machineland or something but still sounding clean not artificial and by taste darken the sound with eq.

Exponential audio
Good sounding to me but the reliability of the plugins in fl studio seems broken and izotope JUST DOESNT REPLY and i think there is no support. Thats the fact as they do with mostly all their plugins, they just suck themselves izotope

2caudio
Got their reverbs, lovely sound afaik but again they are sadly not supported anymore it seems

So i got 2 great bundles of reverbs but no reliability...
So im looking for MAYBE a great replacement atm. Which reverbs and company atm are recommendable for this?

For techno and stuff i dont need more than valhalla plugins.

greententacle · Post by **greententacle** » Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:21 am

i think you're really set with Valhalla.
maybe for massive outaspace the eventide blackhole.
but another reverb will not help you making more/better music.

jens · Post by **jens** » Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:37 am

Caine123 wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:34 am
What im looking out is some cleaner but also can sound massive, e.g. for big soundscapes like having machine/industrysounds in reverb and you think you are in a scifi dark machineland or something but still sounding clean not artificial and by taste darken the sound with eq.

Did you try the free Valhalla Supermassive?

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:49 pm

jens wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:37 am
Caine123 wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:34 am
What im looking out is some cleaner but also can sound massive, e.g. for big soundscapes like having machine/industrysounds in reverb and you think you are in a scifi dark machineland or something but still sounding clean not artificial and by taste darken the sound with eq.

Did you try the free Valhalla Supermassive?

+1. If you want big, clear soundscapes, Supermassive is incredible at that. It doesn't sound like VintageVerb. Different vibe entirely. Probably my all time favorite free plugin

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:59 pm

I have replaced a few veeery popular reverb plugins with Baby Audio Crystalline. Nice. Not as clean as Sobor though. Sobor is a go to reverb.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:56 pm

Third recommendation for Supermassive. Direct competitor to Black Hole but it's free! TBH, the longer you make it, the better Supermassive sounds. I tried making short reverb with it and it's surprisingly good at it...very handy for dub snares etc where you have it at only 2 or 3 seconds then crank up the length to dubify it without having to use multiple reverb or program changes. And, Eventide is iLok so...they can f**k off. Supermassive possibly one of the best freebies out there.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:05 pm

Fourth Recommendation for SuperMassive... whilst I am not a fan of traditionally Valhalla Reverbs (Vintage, Room, Plate), I do quite like their Delay, SpaceModulator and pertinent to this convo their SuperMassive where you want the Reverb to be the sound

... excellent for those purposes, and free to boot.
rsp

greententacle · Post by **greententacle** » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:58 pm

damn. that flux reverb is stunning. but expansive in every aspect.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:05 pm

Lazarus451 wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:59 pm NI Raum was a nice surprise. It gave me that "this sounds really good" feeling. And it was free. But I'm not an reverb expert.

yup, for free, its almost unbelievable! id have happily paid a decent price for it, so many possibilities with it too, definitely doesnt feel like a freebie!!

yellowmix · Post by **yellowmix** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:04 am

Caine123 wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:34 am What im looking out is some cleaner but also can sound massive, e.g. for big soundscapes like having machine/industrysounds in reverb and you think you are in a scifi dark machineland or something but still sounding clean not artificial and by taste darken the sound with eq.

2caudio
Got their reverbs, lovely sound afaik but again they are sadly not supported anymore it seems

You're on Windows, they're going to work for a long time unless you use the DAW that stops supporting VST2 (you have FL Studio listed in your sig so you should be good). You should be able to get the reverb sound you want using Breeze 2; I suggest the hyperplate algorithms. Start with Dark Plate 1 and tweak it to taste. Refresh with the manual if you don't remember what the controls do. It's really important to understand Shape and Contour controls and how to work the EQ curves.

db3 · Post by **db3** » Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:10 am

vurt wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:05 pm
Lazarus451 wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:59 pm NI Raum was a nice surprise. It gave me that "this sounds really good" feeling. And it was free. But I'm not an reverb expert.
yup, for free, its almost unbelievable! id have happily paid a decent price for it, so many possibilities with it too, definitely doesnt feel like a freebie!!

Interesting read about Raum...
https://blog.native-instruments.com/dr- ... um-reverb/

Exponential Audio Reverbs unique/good or Valhalla is as good?