Taking Plagiarism to a New Level
- KVRAF
- 4094 posts since 27 Aug, 2004
https://www.musicradar.com/news/uk-meta ... other-band
The democracy of access that that internet has brought to music also has its downsides – but the idea of stealing an artist's music to pass off as your own is one few would have seen coming. And it's on the rise.
In the UK, Watford metal five-piece Assimilate have found themselves in a bizarre and frustrating situation when they reportedly discovered another band trying to pass off their December 2022-released second album Suffer In Silence album as their own work after reuploading it to Spotify.
“I noticed the album had songs titled very similarly to us and then noticed it was our album slightly slowed down and with the titles slightly changed. It was very strange," singer Jake Aston told the Watford Observer after he was tipped off by a confused friend who also works as a music promoter.
“I was angry. I felt violated that someone had stolen our intellectual property,” he added guitarist Matt Bown, who works as a music West Herts College. He and the band were said to be "absolutely livid" another band - that hasn't been named - would try and pass off their hard work as their own.
Fortunately the band were able to convince Spotify that they were the injured party. "They were incredibly helpful," adds Jack. "They worked really fast and managed to get it down and contacted the distributor.”
The issue of intellectual property theft on Spotify is becoming an increasingly common issue on Spotify, the band were reportedly told by Spotify's copyright team. Last year synthwave artist Timecop1983 aka Jordy Leenaerts also saw his music taken down as a result of tracks being allegedly taken and used by another artist without permission.
The democracy of access that that internet has brought to music also has its downsides – but the idea of stealing an artist's music to pass off as your own is one few would have seen coming. And it's on the rise.
In the UK, Watford metal five-piece Assimilate have found themselves in a bizarre and frustrating situation when they reportedly discovered another band trying to pass off their December 2022-released second album Suffer In Silence album as their own work after reuploading it to Spotify.
“I noticed the album had songs titled very similarly to us and then noticed it was our album slightly slowed down and with the titles slightly changed. It was very strange," singer Jake Aston told the Watford Observer after he was tipped off by a confused friend who also works as a music promoter.
“I was angry. I felt violated that someone had stolen our intellectual property,” he added guitarist Matt Bown, who works as a music West Herts College. He and the band were said to be "absolutely livid" another band - that hasn't been named - would try and pass off their hard work as their own.
Fortunately the band were able to convince Spotify that they were the injured party. "They were incredibly helpful," adds Jack. "They worked really fast and managed to get it down and contacted the distributor.”
The issue of intellectual property theft on Spotify is becoming an increasingly common issue on Spotify, the band were reportedly told by Spotify's copyright team. Last year synthwave artist Timecop1983 aka Jordy Leenaerts also saw his music taken down as a result of tracks being allegedly taken and used by another artist without permission.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111293 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
"who works as a music West Herts College."
nice work if you can get it.
nice work if you can get it.
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- KVRist
- 409 posts since 19 Feb, 2022
This apparently happens a lot with demo songs for preset/sample packs.
Was on this livestream and the producer showed a YT strike he got against his own demo song because someone upped it to Spotify. Also said “this is the 3rd time.” Smh.
Time stamp is 1:32:45 but I guess the forum doesn’t support this in the URL:
Was on this livestream and the producer showed a YT strike he got against his own demo song because someone upped it to Spotify. Also said “this is the 3rd time.” Smh.
Time stamp is 1:32:45 but I guess the forum doesn’t support this in the URL:
- KVRAF
- 2397 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide
Yep, YOUTUBE is a joke. I've had it so much over the years, I have resorted to putting an audio watermark over a lot of our audio demos. I've had to just delete some videos off youtube because of the hassle.i need Help wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:27 am This apparently happens a lot with demo songs for preset/sample packs.
Was on this livestream and the producer showed a YT strike he got against his own demo song because someone upped it to Spotify. Also said “this is the 3rd time.” Smh.
Time stamp is 1:32:45 but I guess the forum doesn’t support this in the URL:
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- KVRian
- 1325 posts since 29 Sep, 2012 from Minnesota
Nothing new. It was a thing on MP3.com in 2000. "Artist rights" is a misnomer, more like he who can afford a lawyer.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4094 posts since 27 Aug, 2004
So if you are creating demos, you now apparently need to upload them everywhere?i need Help wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:27 am This apparently happens a lot with demo songs for preset/sample packs.
Was on this livestream and the producer showed a YT strike he got against his own demo song because someone upped it to Spotify. Also said “this is the 3rd time.” Smh.
Time stamp is 1:32:45 but I guess the forum doesn’t support this in the URL:
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- KVRAF
- 11316 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
I don’t see why you shouldn’t!mumpcake wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:38 pmSo if you are creating demos, you now apparently need to upload them everywhere?i need Help wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:27 am This apparently happens a lot with demo songs for preset/sample packs.
Was on this livestream and the producer showed a YT strike he got against his own demo song because someone upped it to Spotify. Also said “this is the 3rd time.” Smh.
Time stamp is 1:32:45 but I guess the forum doesn’t support this in the URL:
When you look at what’s available on Spotify, it’s truly everything. You should definitely consider distributing through Spotify and others.
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- KVRist
- 409 posts since 19 Feb, 2022
That’s actually not too bad an idea. If you get the artist name and track from the stolen demo song I mentioned above and Google it, it’s been removed from Spotify but still exists on other platforms including YT Music.
I guess the point I was focusing on is intentions aside it just sucks this happens in the first place. I’ll save the rant but I just wonder what goes through these ppls heads? Is it stupidity, indifference, a mix of the two?
I guess the point I was focusing on is intentions aside it just sucks this happens in the first place. I’ll save the rant but I just wonder what goes through these ppls heads? Is it stupidity, indifference, a mix of the two?
- addled muppet weed
- 111293 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
kinda double edged sword, how many it you had even heard of this band before this? could turn out to be the pivotal moment of their career?
- KVRAF
- 13128 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
Yeah, I've had work stolen on a number of occasions. The first time was the worst because it was someone I called a friend at the time. I started looking into my options for protecting myself but soon realized that it would require me to spend time and energy on something that I don't enjoy. So I gave up. People are going to find a way to profit from the work of other and they will figure out how to get around protections more quickly than I can find new protections. I decided it's simply not worth my time to fight against it.
Now, I only learn that someone stole something I made if I get a take down notice on my own material. I keep good records so it's usually pretty easy to prove that I'm the creator but a few years ago I had to take a track down from youtube and couldn't convince them to let me put it back up... it wasn't my best work and I got to keep the enjoyment of making the thing, so it didn't matter much to me.
If folks want to claim my works as theirs, I don't make it difficult. I get what I want from my work before it's released.
That isn't to say that others shouldn't try to protect themselves. Just try not to let it keep you from the enjoyment of making music.
Now, I only learn that someone stole something I made if I get a take down notice on my own material. I keep good records so it's usually pretty easy to prove that I'm the creator but a few years ago I had to take a track down from youtube and couldn't convince them to let me put it back up... it wasn't my best work and I got to keep the enjoyment of making the thing, so it didn't matter much to me.
If folks want to claim my works as theirs, I don't make it difficult. I get what I want from my work before it's released.
That isn't to say that others shouldn't try to protect themselves. Just try not to let it keep you from the enjoyment of making music.