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Calagan wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 4:18 am How do we get rid of codemeter now ? And does it matter ?
I don’t like to have unuseful program in my computer, and I would be so glad removing this horrible system and never see it again (I had some issues with it) but maybe it’s not a big deal.
Just uninstall codemeter! You might need to login once after that, but sure it's not every time you use Reason.
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kidslow wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 1:15 am I'm not going to try and justify my position beyond what follows, ............
That's already long enough mate. I politely disagree but your reasoning is good and there is nothing wrong about it.
Thank you for taking the time to explain.

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EnochLight wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 1:12 am But were you disrespected?
No, I don’t think they spent long enough on the reply to include disrespect, it was a very rote response.

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WatchTheGuitar wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 7:36 am
EnochLight wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 1:12 am But were you disrespected?
No, I don’t think they spent long enough on the reply to include disrespect, it was a very rote response.
This makes complete sense. I mean I’ve got a ton of feature requests I’ve been asking about for the better part of 20 years, but I’ve never felt “disrespected” just because they never materialized. But I’m not thin skinned and never take things personal. I’m not that important. 🤣
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Looks like Reason update to Mac silicon is half baked… Reason Companion app is still intel only :dog:

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Companion is showing ‘(Apple/Intel)’ behind every RE. Does this indeed mean Apple Silicon?

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Fleer wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:35 pm Companion is showing ‘(Apple/Intel)’ behind every RE. Does this indeed mean Apple Silicon?
Yes it does...

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Jac459 wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:38 pm
Fleer wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:35 pm Companion is showing ‘(Apple/Intel)’ behind every RE. Does this indeed mean Apple Silicon?
Yes it does...
The Authorizer app (for full Reason 12) also shows that information, but the app itself appears to be still Intel based

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aMUSEd wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 1:12 pm
Jac459 wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:38 pm
Fleer wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:35 pm Companion is showing ‘(Apple/Intel)’ behind every RE. Does this indeed mean Apple Silicon?
Yes it does...
The Authorizer app (for full Reason 12) also shows that information, but the app itself appears to be still Intel based
What I am doing is loading the RRP in Bitwig, I have Bitwig Plugin Host appearing in the activity monitor. His kind is identified as Apple by the Activity Monitor.
I tried to load a few RE and it stays Apple...

Do you have in mind a RE that is behaving differently?

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Jac459 wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 1:19 pm
aMUSEd wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 1:12 pm
Jac459 wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:38 pm
Fleer wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:35 pm Companion is showing ‘(Apple/Intel)’ behind every RE. Does this indeed mean Apple Silicon?
Yes it does...
The Authorizer app (for full Reason 12) also shows that information, but the app itself appears to be still Intel based
What I am doing is loading the RRP in Bitwig, I have Bitwig Plugin Host appearing in the activity monitor. His kind is identified as Apple by the Activity Monitor.
I tried to load a few RE and it stays Apple...

Do you have in mind a RE that is behaving differently?
No all my REs are Universal now, but the Authorizer app is not, yet

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aMUSEd wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 1:26 pm No all my REs are Universal now, but the Authorizer app is not, yet
Oh ok... :-).
That, I think we don't really care hehe...

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aMUSEd wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 1:12 pm
Jac459 wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:38 pm
Fleer wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:35 pm Companion is showing ‘(Apple/Intel)’ behind every RE. Does this indeed mean Apple Silicon?
Yes it does...
The Authorizer app (for full Reason 12) also shows that information, but the app itself appears to be still Intel based
Yeah, I read on Reddit that they were going to address that today.

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Atlatnesiti wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 11:52 am Looks like Reason update to Mac silicon is half baked… Reason Companion app is still intel only :dog:
I wouldn't say half-baked. Maybe 99% baked - and that's only if you include Companion as being part of Reason (it's not, really). Reason (and RE's) itself being Mac silicon is the important part. Companion is so inconsequential when it comes to resources, it doesn't matter IMHO.
Fleer wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 1:34 pm Yeah, I read on Reddit that they were going to address that today.
Address as in - make Companion true Mac silicon?
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aMUSEd wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 1:12 pm
Jac459 wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:38 pm
Fleer wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 12:35 pm Companion is showing ‘(Apple/Intel)’ behind every RE. Does this indeed mean Apple Silicon?
Yes it does...
The Authorizer app (for full Reason 12) also shows that information, but the app itself appears to be still Intel based
That’s a weird one… after the update Companion app prompted me to update several plugins to AS but app itself is intel only… go and figure, bug perhaps..?
Disabled starting up Companion app with Reason for time being… :wink:

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Atlatnesiti wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 1:39 pm That’s a weird one… after the update Companion app prompted me to update several plugins to AS but app itself is intel only… go and figure, bug perhaps..?
Disabled starting up Companion app with Reason for time being… :wink:
The Authorizer is just a tool, an utility you run once just in order to grant your RE authorisations.
It doesn't affect at all the performance of Reason 12 and your Rack Extensions...
So basically, except if I am missing something, I think really you shouldn't care at all of it not being apple silicon.

From my experience, Authorizers often run with funky encryption libraries, using other math libraries that can be CPU dependant and then not that easy to migrate (if the library has not been migrated).
That can explain why they left it like that.... Knowing that again there is no impact at all for us.

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