Stolen samples of real world synths

[Tokyohunter]

In the case of Sonik Synth 2 which has what I presume are multi-sampled classic analogue synths as part of it's many soundsets.

Would they have to get permission from Moog,Arp etc to do that? I presume buying and using a product like that would not raise any copyright issues later for the users of the product?

Anyone know for sure about this?

[lawapa]

Play the Roland keyboard on a commercial music piece and your good. Sample the keyboard and play the sound in a commercial music piece and your still good. Sample that same sound and try to sell it or give it away free and your in trouble. I think this only pertains to wave samples. If you create a sound using any form of synthesys and sample it you should be good as long as what you did was an actiual creation on your part ie not a patch. As for single cycle wave forms I'm unsure as to weather these can be considered copyrightable since they are simply building blocks for the creation of sound using synthesis. It's like you can't copyright a piano just the samples you made, your recording of these samples but. In the case of a major manufact the name is copyrighted and you need permission to use that.

[McLilith]

In the case of a major manufact the name is copyrighted and you need permission to use that.

It's actually trademarked, not copyrighted.


take care,
McLilith

[learjeff]

Well, here's where things vary from country to country. In the US, if you're using it for your own purposes and not for profit, it's not a crime but you can be sued.

Practically speaking, if you're just doing it for your own purposes, you have little to fear. The chances of being "busted" are slim to none.

Morally/ethically speaking, I'd say it's a gray area -- as usual, you have to make up your own mind. For example, if you own this synth and you're just making samples so you can use the sound more conveniently, I'd like to think the manufacturer wouldn't object (though one never knows). If you had to rent or borrow it, it's considerably less defensable.

People who make samples of sample-based synths and make post them for free to others, or sell them, are definitely violating other people's legal rights, and unless you're of an ethical persuasion (like communism) where intellectual property is an invalid concept, you'd have to conclude that it's ethically wrong.

[androidlove]

Thanks for the answers. I can't even see myself recording with the Jupiter 6 samples, but it sure is fun playing rock star with them.

I've downloaded many SFs from the net. There's a good chance they're not all cleared. Have artists been getting sued for using these?